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'GrayKey' iPhone Unlocking Box No Longer Works After iOS 12 Update
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Awesome. The Govt thinks personal privacy is a game.
This is why I wanted TouchID to continue. >6 digit key, and a biometric that's better than a wink. FaceID can still get stuffed.
Apple is far and far ahead of the competition, only a fool would say otherwise
In all cases. Police have the right to take your picture and fingerprints upon arrest. The court(s) have said that if it is a part of you, there is no protection. If it is something you know, it is protected.
This put a big smug smile on my face. This is one of the many reasons that I use only Apple devices, I trust them with my data and know that they put my privacy first. I hope that they stay true to this in the future.
Not really, if it were top notch, the phone would automatically do a secure erase when it detects it has been plugged into one of these devices. That would be top notch security.
Not really, they put enough of your privacy first to make you feel like they are doing so, but in all reality they aren't doing anything major to keep things secure, otherwise there would be the option to setup certain finger combinations that would securely erase the device and as I said before, the device would be securely erased the SECOND it detected being plugged into one of these boxes.
I think you can still press the power button 5 times rapidly to activate SOS and it will require password instead of Touch ID.
I think the debate over the courts ordering you to unlock your iPhone is something you are (biometric) vs something you know (passcode).
All Apple needs to do is implement the option to enable a self destruct pass code. Then if the courts do get an order to compel you to disclose the passcode, you give them the self destruct passcode. A self destruct passcode would also help thwart brute force attacks like the GrayKey.
The question would be if that would be considered destruction of evidence and get you in more trouble than just contempt.
All Apple needs to do is implement the option to enable a self destruct pass code. Then if the courts do get an order to compel you to disclose the passcode, you give them the self destruct passcode. A self destruct passcode would also help thwart brute force attacks like the GrayKey.
The question would be if that would be considered destruction of evidence and get you in more trouble than just contempt.
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Not sure, what the date is on this, but I believe the supreme court has already ruled that you can't be forced to give a password.
But here's the simple solution if they do try and force you: "I forgot what my password is, sorry."
Actually, face is very easy to copy, they also did that very early on. Now it isn't worth it for criminals because of cost, but it is easy to do.
You seem to be saying that everyone who gets arrested is automatically required to unlock their phone if there’s a biometric lock instead if a passcode. But a judge has to sign a search warrant to compel that, right?
This. And that particular sheriffs department is just like... "oh another $10-15 thousand dollar box will be in the works soon, let's just sit around and wait and buy that one too"
[doublepost=1540415881][/doublepost]So if I am a person with criminal tendencies here's my plan.
Set up FaceID with my friend or spouse so that it's active and never use it.
Then just use the passcode all of the time.
If I get arrested I will appear to play hardball and never look at the phone if asked, eventually giving in, look at the phone and faceID won't work.
Sit and watch the smiles drop off of the faces of whoever is trying to force me to unlock my phone.
You mean the fake news story? Seriously, I am shocked ANYONE believed that was possible, you can't fit all of that on that small of a device. Believe me, if the story was true, EVERY tech company in the world would be hunting down who ever created the device as the first person to get their hands on that tech would put everyone else out of business.
Tis true..... what was the term used to describe people that would create gossip and drop it into conversation casually and sit back and watch the chaos ensue....A $%!7 Stirrer?
Isn't better crime prevention also the premise behind "Pre-Crime" (Minority Report) and the mass surveillance state?
Yeah, hey while your at it (not committing crimes!), maybe searches without a warrant should be allowed... I mean, because they have no reason to visit YOUR house. Have you spoken up against anything the government is doing lately? No? Then maybe the right to free speech & public assembly should be shut down for everyone, because YOU aren’t using them! =)
Lol, what a selfish and myopic point of view.
Ever since the news about the existence of these things broke, I've been using a 15-digit passcode. I've never broken a law other than speed limits, but I don't care; I'm not worried about someone with a badge. Since the technology exists, that means it can be used for nefarious purposes by someone who reverse-engineered the system.
WTF is GrayKey? 
I thought this box is what iPhones use to reproduce…
I thought this box is what iPhones use to reproduce…
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