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And the ending is one of the worst. Way to miss the point of your own movie and treat your audience like a bunch of morons.
Please clarify, as I wonder how much of a moron I am.
No offense. I meant that the director THINKS we are morons, not that we are. The final scene, when old Ryan is with his family, crying and saying, Tell Me I Lived A Good Life, as he is surrounded by his wife, kids and grandkids..... That's the director both missing the point of his own movie and treating us like idiots. The point of the movie was not that Ryan is saved to have a good life and do something good for society. The point (in another my audience are idiots moment) is spelled out for us by Tom Hanks when one of the soldiers asks why they are saving this guy. What's so special about him? The answer is nothing. They are doing it because they were told to do so. Period. It didn't matter if Ryan returned home and cured cancer or if he was hit by a bus and killed two weeks later. The point of the movie is that soldiers follow orders even if they don't understand them and if that is Tom Hank's ticket home to his wife, than that is what he is going to do. And the reason why its treating us like morons is that we do not have be shown Ryan growing up and having a family and a great life to appreciate what they did for him. We don't have to be spoon fed this emotional scene which both, as I said, missed the point of the movie while beating us over the head with See! He's a good guy and had a great life!!!
I think you are reading it in a particular way, but there are others. The Tom Hanks character told him to "earn this", in other words, you are getting to go home due to a regulation, while we died to find you. Ryan feels survivor guilt and hopes he earned his reprieve from the war.
Saving Private Ryan has one of the best first reels and one of the worst endings. Spielberg just can't help himself.
And I think its unnecessary to show that ending. Give the audience some credit. You don't have to show him decades later to appreciate the sacrifice those other guys made.
It is my unpopular opinion that Spielberg makes shallow, superficial, cliché, obvious, mile-wide-and-an-inch-deep movies. Oh, I forgot maudlin, treacly and ,at times, unbearably cute!
His characters are flat, cardboard cut outs. The direction is uninspired, and his scripts are nothing much. He relies on cheap tricks to wring emotion from the audience, he doesn't earn our emotional response...he just pushes emotional buttons.
And, no, I haven't seen "Schindler's List". I won't subject myself to Spielberg's interpretation of such an intensely important topic...so I apologize if it was, somehow, a total exception to his usual fare and a actually good film.
Just one man's opinion...
It's a narrative, creative choice as a character put into this position might feel that way including a profound sense of loss seeing all of those young people who did not have the opportunity to live out their lives while he did. I would not slam SS for it, but it's your right.
It is my unpopular opinion that Spielberg makes shallow, superficial, cliché, obvious, mile-wide-and-an-inch-deep movies. Oh, I forgot maudlin, treacly and ,at times, unbearably cute!
His characters are flat, cardboard cut outs. The direction is uninspired, and his scripts are nothing much. He relies on cheap tricks to wring emotion from the audience, he doesn't earn our emotional response...he just pushes emotional buttons.
And, no, I haven't seen "Schindler's List". I won't subject myself to Spielberg's interpretation of such an intensely important topic...so I apologize if it was, somehow, a total exception to his usual fare and a actually good film.
Just one man's opinion...
I agree 100%. I was once made to go see A.I. I still have nightmares.
Tho the opening scene from saving private ryan is bloody good!
It is my unpopular opinion that Spielberg makes shallow, superficial, cliché, obvious, mile-wide-and-an-inch-deep movies. Oh, I forgot maudlin, treacly and ,at times, unbearably cute!
His characters are flat, cardboard cut outs. The direction is uninspired, and his scripts are nothing much. He relies on cheap tricks to wring emotion from the audience, he doesn't earn our emotional response...he just pushes emotional buttons.
And, no, I haven't seen "Schindler's List". I won't subject myself to Spielberg's interpretation of such an intensely important topic...so I apologize if it was, somehow, a total exception to his usual fare and a actually good film.
Just one man's opinion...
I agree too. It's just that his movies are very well made. Excellent schmaltz
I agree too. It's just that his movies are very well made. Excellent schmaltz
If you have all the money in the world to throw up (pun intended!) on the screen, any mediocre hack can make a visually good looking film. But, then, it's just good looking garbage.
If you haven't seen Shindlers List don't rate Speilberg just using his mega-hit made for anybody corny movies. He can be a very good director,producer, and writer.
Again, you are right that I have no right to judge "Schindler's List" as I have not seen it. I have, however, seen most all of his other works, (mega-hits and "lesser" works) and I still stand behind my opinion posted above....emphasizing it is nothing more than that.
Again, you are right that I have no right to judge "Schindler's List" as I have not seen it. I have, however, seen most all of his other works, (mega-hits and "lesser" works) and I still stand behind my opinion posted above....emphasizing it is nothing more than that.
You're an Anti-Dentite. Admit it !!
/Seinfeld reference.
You're an Anti-Dentite. Admit it !!
/Seinfeld reference.
Oh, Lordy...I'm busted!
And I'm sure that if Spielberg made a film about dentists...well, I'll say no more!
LOL!
That was a really good show...it never jumped the shark, it stayed fresh until the end.
I consider A.I. as one of the most disturbing movies I have seen (I recommend watching it if you haven't). It doesn't show humanity in a good light.
If you have all the money in the world to throw up (pun intended!) on the screen, any mediocre hack can make a visually good looking film. But, then, it's just good looking garbage.
Agreed. The last thing I want to do is defend Spielberg
I just think the battle scenes in Saving Private Ryan were transcendent, especially the opening storming of the beach head. It's rare that such great action and special effects (which I'm no great fan of) in a war movie do not actually glorify war. Spielberg's movies are a mess. They have only a superficial sense of humor or irony. Children are smarter than adults. Too much sentimentality. In real life people are rarely aware of the significance of events that are immediately occurring. You're right, he insults his audience.