Not unusual at all for a manufacturer that sells content. Video game companies have done this for many years. the money was made on selling content, not the console.
Not unusual at all for a manufacturer that sells content. Video game companies have done this for many years. the money was made on selling content, not the console.
There is no way Apple sells anything at cost or slight loss. Try again. lol
Would it not make sense to sell the iPod Touch and the iPhone XR at cost or at a loss if you are implying Apple would recoup the cost by services. One has Siri on these devices and there is a multitude of excellent AirPlay, BT, etc speaker systems on the market. Am I to believe that Apple invested years on R&D to make the HomePod, only to sell it at cost or a loss to sell content. Was I born yesterday
AppleTV has been produced for much longer and was referred to as a “hobby”. Chances are Apple can and has permitted 3rd party TV manufacturers to allow AirPlay 2 support. At this point this hobby is only good for those who want iOS and their TV does not support its. We don’t need another OS variant on TV, AirPlay 2 may signal the phasing out of AppleTV. Good riddance, there are other better solutions on the market. Put those TVOS people on other fruitful projects. The profit is in content and it’s delivery, make an AppleTV app available on GooglePlay to deliver the content and game play, no need for a separate box when we have iPod Touch and iPhones in our pockets.
Would it make sense to sell iPhone at a loss? No. It is a mature product and the value of Services for Apple is good, but it doesn't generate the kind of margins to make such a strategy viable. Check asymco for a detailed analysis of revenue.
In the case of HomePod, it is possible. Apple is trying to create a new product category and they don't want HomePod to be anything less than a success. With sufficient volume they can apply pressure to the supply chain. Same goes for Apple TV, the goal is to 'find' the product that will be the next big thing. They've tried several different form factors, currently an iPhone without a screen, and have tried making the content deal that will finally make Apple TV a hit.
2) I’m not sure what year you’re going back to with MBP, when was the 30% increase?
4) re: the mini, it’s is true that the cheapest entry level model went up 60%. But it’s not quite as simple as that. Yes, gone are the lower-end configurations (i.e. 4GB RAM, HDD and Fusion drive options) whose mere existence so enraged many mini fans. The base model is now a 8GB/128GB SSD configuration, and at $799 it is $50 higher than the previous (2014) 8GB/128 SSD model at $749.
All in all, I’d say pricing has been fairly steady, with increases generally attributable to technology upgrades. It’s true the minimum “buy-in” point for the cheapest, entry-level base model has increased by $100 for iPhone, $200 for MacBook Air and $300 for Mac mini vs. five years ago, and I’d agree that’s unfortunate for those who can’t afford those increases. But if you look at the value that those price increases brought, I think they’re worth paying those higher prices. You may very well disagree though.
In 2015 the cheapest 13” MBP was $1,299, 2016-2018 it is 1,399. A $100 increase is not 30%.The MBP before the introduce the Touchbar, which was the last usable MBP.
All the one 2016+ were just a massive failure in design and price. So bad that you cannot even connect the best selling product from the same company (iPhone). Worst keyboard ever, less connectivity and remove the best feature ever the Mag-Safe.
Yes, the original purpose of the Mac mini was switchers. But things change, and that market was insufficient to support the product line.It is very simple. The Mac mini purpose was to have an entry level-affordable computer to increase market share and convert more users. Now, the entry level has increased 60%.
Everybody understands that it is not the same machine. Though the internal components upgrade does not justify a 60% increase. Especially considering that after 4 years they kept the same old case design and in addition, they soldered the SSD, forcing all users to purchase ridiculously obscene expensive SSD Apple prices and it does NOT include a keyboard and mouse. Once you start upgrading it will be cheaper to just get an iMac.
Apple prices in the entire computer line up have been increasing without any innovation whatsoever, while the quality was decreasing. The upgrade of internal components should not increase the price by 20-40%. So I disagree, that Apple price increases have brought any value whatsoever. Especially considering all the problems with design and quality all the latest computer products are having. (Macbook Pro/Air Keyboards classs action lawsuit, speaker noise, lack of connectivity, remove of Mag-Safe, etc just to name a few of the issues).
All in all, Apple computer prices are way overpriced and underpec for what they offer.
That is why many users including myself that wanted to upgrade for several years are not doing it due to the poor design and quality of the latest products.
Sure, but that wasn’t the question. Why compare apples to oranges?2014 Top iPhone (6+)
$749 - $949
2018 Top iPhone (XS Max)
$1,099 - $1,449
So the current top of the line iPhone is 350 - 500$ more expensive than the best 2014 models.
No idea why you say you can’t connect iPhone, I assume you’re mis-informed.
So it’s not true that MBP can’t connect to iPhone.The MacBook 2016+ has usb c.
You need a dongle to physically connect the iPhone because Apple did not include the usb a to c adapter
Prior to 2016, this was not an issue
Apple did discontinue the 15” MBP with 256GB SSD and integrated GPU, which sold for $1,999, or $2,299 with the 512GB SSD.
(No idea why you say you can’t connect iPhone, I assume you’re mis-informed.)
The 2018 mini is not targeted at switchers—that’s obvious by Apple putting four Thunderbolt 3 ports and a $100 10Gb Ethernet option on it. The $799 2018 base mini is a great upgrade from the $749 price of the previous 128GB model. The $50 increase is less than 7%, and that $50 buys a lot, doesn’t it?
So it’s not true that MBP can’t connect to iPhone.
But no adapter is needed, just a simple cable:
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The 2015 13” MBP increased from $1,299 to 1,399 in 2016. The 2015 15” entry level MBP with discrete graphics was $2,499, it increased to $2,599 in 2016. The 2018 Mac mini 128 SSD is $799, the previous model was $749.Previous than 2015 entry MBP were selling for $1,799.
2015 MBP cost $1,999. So now, the basic MBP is $2,399.
So comparing from 2015 is a 20% and pre 2015 a 30%+
Not to mention that in addition to raising the price you are getting a pretty badly design computer, and bad quality as well. As I mentioned before, the keyboard is crappy, problems with speakers, less connectivity, no mag safe among the very basic inconsistencies (see below). It was so bad and got so badly reception that in 2016 the very first week they dropped the prices in all adaptors "to make a transition easier".
Regarding the iPhone, you are misinformed. Try connecting an iPhone 7 to an MBP 2016+. You cannot, unless you buy a cable or an adaptor since MBP does only have USB-C. It is quite pathetic that you cannot connect Apple best selling product to your own computer. The minimum thing Apple could have done, especially considering how much they are overcharging for their products, (or they make you think you are buying a "premium product") to give you a free cable or adaptor.
Sorry, but you are not comparing equally. You need to compare the entry level to an entry level. SO the price actually raise 65%. Your comparison is also pointless since $50 does not buy a lot since SSD prices, RAM and internal components actually drop with time. Furthermore, after waiting 4 years for an upgrade they kept the same old design (that had overheat problems) and soldered the SSD making the computer un-upgradable and forcing consumers to pay obscene premium prices for Apple SSD. So much for Apple green recycling...
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So you agree with me. You cannot connect the iPhone unless you buy a Cable....
Pathetic when you are paying premium prices for both the phone and the Macbook!
Guess what is the Apple product category that had grow the most? Adaptors.
That should tell you had badly designed their products have become.
Haha. Apple will sell it at loss? No way. Apple gets at least 30% profit.
Your original statement was that one would be unable to "connect an iPhone to a MacBook Pro. Period." I.e., not being able to connect at all. Not "unless you buy a cable" or something. Which was, obviously, hyperbole.So you agree with me. You cannot connect the iPhone unless you buy a Cable....
No while I do agree it would be fair and nice for Apple to include a USB-C to Lightning cable with the iPhone, the even bigger issue for many people is probably not being able to connect standard projectors, mice, USB flash drives without purchasing adapters sold separately - which people will be getting anyway.The MBP before the introduce the Touchbar, which was the last usable MBP.
All the one 2016+ were just a massive failure in design and price. So bad that you cannot even connect the best selling product from the same company (iPhone). Worst keyboard ever, less connectivity and remove the best feature ever the Mag-Safe.
If Apple were to include the USB-C to Lightning cable, from my experience it would remain unused for the vast majority customers. Thus including it doesn't make much, neither from a business nor ecological perspective.
Your original statement was that one would be unable to "connect an iPhone to a MacBook Pro. Period." I.e., not being able to connect at all. Not "unless you buy a cable" or something. Which was, obviously, hyperbole.
No while I do agree it would be fair and nice for Apple to include a USB-C to Lightning cable with the iPhone, the even bigger issue for many people is probably not being able to connect standard projectors, mice, USB flash drives without purchasing adapters sold separately - which people will be getting anyway.
If Apple were to include the USB-C to Lightning cable, from my experience it would remain unused for the vast majority customers. Thus including it doesn't make much, neither from a business nor ecological perspective.
No fancy accounting would be able to hide the iPhone having 55% GM, for example.
DirecTV Now did a few promos when you prepaid for 3 or 4 months of service (they tried it both ways) and someone is doing it with their streaming for a cable company currently (or soon), I believe. The 3 month deal at DTV Now cost $105, so it was a bargain if you needed one.
has been produced for much longer and was referred to as a “hobby”. Chances are Apple can and has permitted 3rd party TV manufacturers to allow AirPlay 2 support. At this point this hobby is only good for those who want iOS and their TV does not support its. We don’t need another OS variant on TV, AirPlay 2 may signal the phasing out of AppleTV.
And regarding making ecological sense, the entire line up of computer is an environmental disaster.
Apple claims to do recycling but in the other hand do the entire opposite. In all the latest computers, all the SSD (and RAM in most of them) are soldered into the logic board. This makes a computer non upgradable, more difficult to repair, more prone to failure and if your SSD dies, you have no more computer, your only option would be to take it for an expensive Apple repair.
Apple's only interest is to overcharge customers for obscene SSD prices and that computers brake more often so they buy new computers.
Furthermore, Apple has been opposing the bill of Right to Repair. How is that ecological friendly is beyond anybody's common sense. We understand that people repairing/upgrading their own computers and holding computers longer goes against Apple interests. But before all computers were easy to upgrade both the RAM and internal drives. Not even to mention that the way they are designing the computers are that are almost impossible to repair.
So before saying that it does not make ecological sense, do your research.
Building a device that is easy to repair is different then building it to make it more easily recyclable. The later entails selecting recyclable components, making it easier to separate materials and limiting the number of different materials that need to be separated. None of that has anything to do with repairability or upgradeability.
Right to repair also does not mean easy to repair. They could still provide schematics and diagnostic software (no doubt at a steep price) but still build machines so that you need to replace an entire motherboard if any component fails, even if it one that could be made replaceable like a battery.
Building a device that is easy to repair, it actually makes products last longer, hence, less trash is created.
I do not understand how soldering RAM, SSD and other components to the motherboard, makes a computer more recyclable.
Which is what Apple is doing now. They are soldering every component to the motherboard, so if something fails you are screwed. But in addition to that, they are making more difficult to repair computers which truly shows how evil Apple has become under Tim Crook.