Gurman: Apple Planning No New Mac Releases For Remainder of 2022

[james2538]

Well this is certainly disappointing news as someone in the market for a new MacBook Pro! Was really looking forward to a model with WiFi 6E. Now to decide whether to limp along with just the iPad for 4+ months or grab a discounted M1 model.

Think I'll pull the trigger on the M1 (though I'll wait until Apple's Holiday return period starts just in case)

 

[Apple$]

I was hoping it would have been Apple Polishing Cloth. I guess we’re not getting that either.

I heard a little rumor we could get the 3 ply Apple Toilet Roll with Apple logos engraved into each square, and it's only $29 per roll, or 4 rolls for $99! /s

 

[symphony]

Apple M1 1 hit wonder

 

[ralph_sws]

I heard a little rumor we could get the 3 ply Apple Toilet Roll with Apple logos engraved into each square, and it's only $29 per roll, or 4 rolls for $99! /s

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[Eorlas]

we just got new M1 Pros last year, with the M1 Max being a stupidly capable device.

we really dont need to normalize new Pro-tier MacBooks *every* year. the phones being yearly instead of having the major revision year, and an off "s" year is silly business, especially how good these phones have become.

 

[Apple$]

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[inkswamp]

I've been waiting for an M2 Mac Mini to upgrade my old, slow, and not supported by Ventura, Mac Mini 2014. Will be ordering a Dell XPS and PreSonus Studio One. Bye-bye Mac, bye-bye Logic Pro X...

Here, let me get you a silk pillow to faint into. I’m sure the drama is just overwhelming.

 

[4743913]

If anything, the MacBook Air is crippled by the lack of a touch screen...

touching a computer screen is disgusting.. that behavior should be reserved for non-computers, like iPads.

 

[02-serious-stent]

Ugh! Need to buy a few Mac Minis. 🤦🏼‍♂️

 

[02-serious-stent]

Macs don’t need refreshing every year anyway.

They do when 1st generation products are crippled and support things such as a single monitor in 2022. 🤦🏼‍♂️

Then again, they just updated the MacBook Air with M2 and it still only supports 1 external monitor. 🤦🏼‍♂️

 

[thechris.prince]

Well, great.

Sounds like it's time to get inside the old Mac Pro 5,1 and do some maintenance.

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I came from the 5.1 cheese grater too. The M1Max is the first Mac that felt like a direct replacement to the MacPro. It's beautifully fast quite and feels PRO. As long as I get the same bulletproof reliability from the MBP as I had from the MP I'll be the happiest of happy. All my photo editing software stoped supporting mohave, so I was kind of pushed to upgrade.

 

[soyazul]

If you read the expressions, you'll see that he never said what the title is saying.

 

[Chazak]

You aren’t alone. Apple essentially said in their earnings call that they expect the M2 to not sell as well as the M1 because of lack of excitement for a new chip.

Can you show where they said or strongly inferred such a thing, because I listened to the earning call, read the transcripts and I am at a loss as to how you determined they "essentially" said that. Your opinion is not shared anyone I know who has experience in this or is a professional analyst. They did give caution on future revenues across the board because of economic conditions. They gave zero indication "lack of excitement" or 3nm vs 5nm had any role in holding the product line where it is right now. Economic conditions have no relationship to deciding they made a decision based on "lack of excitement."

I find most people who inhabit tech sites seem to forget they are not even close to the profile of Apple's average customer and comprise a very small percentage of their customer base. The things we notice and care about rarely enter the mind of the vast majority of Apple customers. Lack if excitement over a chip is definitely one of those things never entering their mind.

 

[Kierkegaarden]

This is not news, as usual, but it is good news — at least we will have a proper event (hopefully live) showing these, along with a possible “one last thing”…

 

[Kierkegaarden]

You aren’t alone. Apple essentially said in their earnings call that they expect the M2 to not sell as well as the M1 because of lack of excitement for a new chip.

I listened to the earnings call — they did not say this.

 

[Tacobear]

When you have someone who make "guesses" on a weekly basis, surely he will get some of them right.

I really missed the Jobs times where rumours are hard to come by, so when there is one, people are really excited about it. Maybe MacRumors needs to set the standards higher; "... Launch Within Months" shouldn't be accepted as a rumour.

 

[Tagbert]

I guess we now know Apple was BSing when it gave this as an excuse to the markets to scrap Intel processors. They should be on M2 across the board by now with every device bar the iPhone having it.

Sure, pure BS. There could be no other reason why this is later than rumors suggested. I mean, Covid is over and supplies are fine and everyone is back to work. Process shrinks always go according to plan with production volumes easy to predict. /s

 

[heeroyuigo]

It’s ✅ with Taiwanese Commercial Times’s report (December 2021) :

In the second half of 2022, Apple will first launch the M2 processor code-named Staten, and in the first half of 2023, it will launch the new M2X processor architecture code-named Rhodes, and release two processors such as M2 Pro and M2 Max according to the different graphics cores.

蘋果M2處理器 將採台積電4奈米 - 工商時報

蘋果推出M1 Pro及M1 Max兩款處理器並搭載在新款MacBook Pro筆電，旗下Mac系列個人電腦處理器過渡到自行研發的Arm架構處理器Apple Silicon的兩年計畫已屆一年，M1 Pro及M1

ctee.com.tw

 

[Pezimak]

Sure, pure BS. There could be no other reason why this is later than rumors suggested. I mean, Covid is over and supplies are fine and everyone is back to work. Process shrinks always go according to plan with production volumes early to predict. /s

Last I checked people were still working during Covid, and Intel and AMD have had no problems making new chips. Apple did make the claim during Covid too if I recall?

 

[Kierkegaarden]

With the multiple lockdowns and energy limits in China, this should come as no surprise. We know this impacted the June quarter for the Mac, and the lockdowns look like they will continue for a while.

 

[Allen_Wentz]

I think Apple should be concerned about declining sales. Just for grins, I speced a M2 iPad 11 Pro with 2TB and cellular expecting a long lead time. It was in stock at a local Phoenix area Apple store. The trade in value of my M1 iPad 11 with 2TB and cellular was around $450. A depreciation of 80% in one year. Where is the residual value to justify a premium price product?

Processor upgrades are recently so slightly incrementalental that the increase in performance for normal use is hardly discernible. All the M1 chips seem to have nearly identical single core performance per all the reviews. The boot times of my M1 Mac Book Air (16GB/1TB SSD) and my Mac Studio Ultra (128GB/8TB SSD) are about the same.

My 2019 fully optioned Intel 16" Mac Book Pro (64GB/8TB SSD) actually gets to a usable screen faster at startup.

We need more than a different color lipstick on the pig to be a new model. There needs to be a significant increase in the single core mode speeds which will could also increase the multi-processor speeds.

The basic Apple iWork programs live in the single processor world. One's typing speed controls how fast things happen. Doing the routine software updates lives in the single processor world. One would think that an operating system upgrade would be quicker on the processor system with the most cores.....

We had multi-processor capability in the 90s but Photoshop was limited th three at the most. So there was lots of interest in going from a 68030 Iici to the top of the pile 68040 of the IIfx. The 32 Mbytes of Ram was very expensive using eight 4 Mb memory chips.

Who measures computers by what "the boot times of my M1 Mac Book Air and my Mac Studio Ultra" are? Don't folks mostly just use sleep mode? In the old days sleep was often problematic, but this is now almost 2023...

 

[Allen_Wentz]

Well, that's a kick in the nuts. I need a new mbp to finally replace my 2011 15" mbp music production machine. Looks like I'm waiting a few more months then. Bleh.

Me too. I may switch to a two-box workflow and get an M1 Studio to take care of my 2016 MBP's slowing desktop performance. The MBP continues to work fine for moderate mobile workflow challenges.

 

[Allen_Wentz]

This should be setting off alarm bells among the analysts over Apple's decision to move Mac entirely over to Apple Silicon. Sure, the M1 showed great performance numbers, but the bigger problem—or so was implied by Apple—with Intel's chips was evolution cadence: they were slow in delivering new, faster chips. Well… not sure what should then be said about Apple Silicon! Intel is not sitting still. AMD is not sitting still. Both have ramped up power and efficiency, although, no, still not to M1/M2 points, but another generation and they'll be there. Meanwhile, Apple has been pulling shenanigans like single-channel SSD.
This isn't a production problem on the chassis side, clearly evidenced by the fact that the rumors aren't saying the chassis are going to change on MBP and mini and Apple is selling those now still with M1 chips… it is a design/production problem on the Apple Silicon design front. And that is highly troubling, or should be, for watchers of such things. It completely undercuts Apple's entire "narrative"/reasons for shifting entirely to their own chip production.

(For example: if 14-inch and 16-inch MacBook Pros still existed with 11th/12th-gen Intel processors, they'd be highly competitive in the PC marketplace and selling like crazy, even IF they weren't as fast as the Apple Silicon counterparts. And a 12th gen Intel mini would actually be worth the asking price of the 2018 Intel 8th gen mini Apple is spitefully still selling; the resources needed to do the engineering to go between an 8th gen and a 12th gen Intel board should be "trivial"… as evidenced by all the crap PC manus figured it out, yearly.)

Nonsense.
A) Chip production on the Intel side is facing similar difficulties.
B) Apple SoC still is leading edge, same as it was last week.
C) Apple computer sales are still doing relatively well as compared to the other folks you reference.

 

[jimbobb24]

it was clear from july when tsmc problems with 3nm was known but macrumors was spreading rumors

How dare the site called Macrumors share….rumors.

 

[lovehateapple]

This is disappointing news, but it doesn't really surprise me. Was really hoping for new mac minis, so hopefully they arrive in early in 2023. Based on rumors, it sounds like apple VR headset could be announced / released before new minis ??