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Gurman: Apple Silicon Mac Pro Testing Ramping Up, New MacBook Pro and Mac Mini to Launch Within Months
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For me, black (and dark gray) feels clean and sleek. It's just a blank slate and is calming. For whatever reason, the thought of having something other than those two colours puts me with a feeling of... repulsion(?), I guess? Like, seeing it on a desk or table makes my mind a bit heavy (that's the best way I can put it). At least with the devices being black/dark gray, my mind can more easily ignore it when working.
That's the best way I can describe it. It's completely understandable that you think it's boring and I don't necessarily disagree. I also don't blame you if you think everyone who prefers black on their devices are emo, but that's a different story entirely.
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So I guess this means that the new MBPs won't be coming this year after all? Not that I'm complaining, I'm ok with my current MB.
The track record is slightly better than MacRumors, right? Still, stories about him gets people to come and comment and as long as that keeps MacRumors up and running, I’ll take it.
Not to be that type of guy, but it's "it's" not "its"...Sorry to be that type of guy but its "silicon" not "silicone" (material iPhone cases are made of)
Still 2 months left! MBPs could still come out in the next month, and all we ever expected was an ANNOUNCEMENT of the Mac Pro?
I'm still hoping for a larger-screen Mac Book Air. I want to update my 2013 16-inch MacBook, but I don't need the power of the current MacBook Pro lineup. I don't think I'm the only one...
Using the time gap between the M1 models announced and the M1 Pro/Max (about a year), that suggests the M2 Pro/Max being WWDC 2023, since the M2 was announced WWDC 2022. Still could see like a M2 24" iMac or a M2 Mac mini depending on Apple ability to get parts. We have no idea what TSMC supply pipeline is like these days?
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Maybe, but what apple's final cadence looks like is REALLY hard to judge, because we have SO few data points (i.e. ONE) for high-end Mac ARM chips.
Time will tell!
Time will tell!
It depends on whether or not any of those folks are even using Macs anymore. If the last 2,037 people that were using the prior generation MacPro with 1.5TB just gave up on the platform due to them not being locked into any Apple specific app or workflow and finding better non-Apple performance elsewhere, then Apple no longer has to provide a solution for those folks or folks like them that need 1.5 TB. It’s not like whatever the new Mac Pro is will sell even a significant portion of 1 million systems a year.
Just take solace in the fact that the way you make your living doesn’t depend on a REQUIREMENT to continuously spew information even though you haven’t received any new information in a month and a half.
I am rather confused with the amount of hate for Gurman. He is overall more reliable than most leakers.
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Only behind Ross Young.
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I believe customers HAVE spoken with their wallets. There are millions of folks that are saying “No Way” to Apple and everything they’re releasing right now. Fortunately for Apple, though, there are a NEW set of folks saying “JUST what I wanted, thanks!” that are offsetting those efforts of those that haven’t bought a new Apple system in 4-5 years.
Voting with ones wallet DOES work, one just have to hope that everyone else is voting the way they prefer.
I'm going to guess higher price, like $100 higher for an M2 Mac mini. Inflation is a major factor and justifies the price increase alone. But also the lack of competent competition opens the door for Apple to raise prices. If they sell it with only 8gb, when pretty much everyone should get it with at least 16gb, then you have that upgrade cost built in as well. The mini at the minimum configuration you should buy then becomes a not trivial $999 machine. But it also will be incredibly future proof with an M2 processor, 16gb of RAM, and a bunch of very fast and flexible ports.
There’s not enough people wanting a wide variety of desktops for Apple to put in the time and effort. And, the higher up the performance scale of desktop one goes, the number of customers that need that drops off a cliff.
For the vast majority of people, “mobile” is their primary desire for a computing system. AFTER that, maybe they look at prices…
Your scenario is likely. However the real question is about ports. Now that Studio exists to fill the midrange very well with a bunch of very fast and flexible ports, personally I do not see Apple continuing to make two different port configurations for the future Minis that comprise Apple's low end. So, what ports does the M2 Mini get? My guess (because we now have Studio) is not the full complement that Intel Mini has.
An ancillary question is: how many displays does Apple allow an M2 Mini to drive?
A reasonable question, considering the M1 Macbook Air was introduced in 2020 at $999, and the M2 version starts at $1199. I could see the same thing happening to the mini since there is a large gap in price between the mini and the Studio.
I find the GPU core counts odd as well. Given the base m2 is 10 core we all assumed 20 core pro, 40 core max, 80 core ultra and 160 core extreme.
Obviously Apple has some binned variants half way in between.
Maybe Apple has had to reduce their planned GPU counts to fit the extra two CPU cores on die?
AIOs do not interest me because because they force-fit the computer with a single display, forever.
A) Displays and the computers that drive them wear out at different times.
B) Different users have different display needs and different computer needs. E.g. image folks need great color accuracy and should invest in pricey displays, whereas a coder, or a music designer, or an MS Office using person can get by with a cheaper display. Similarly on the computer side different folks have different needs.
C) Displays and computer needs may change independently. E.g. one gets involved in a new app that demands more horsepower that means the current computer needs upgrading - - but the current display remains perfect.
My personal use case evolved over decades from desktop + laptop, to maxed out MBP, to MBP driving three 4K displays; and crossed all the issues A+B+C above. Hence my disdain for AIOs. My primary need for horsepower revolves around manipulating tens of thousands of large still image files, however history has taught me that next year is likely to involve different computing demands.
Since computers last me 3-5 years I prefer to buy the latest tech available, and I plan to meet future years' possible demands, not today's. Also I look at what Apple is up to. E.g. Apple has been on a run of increasing RAM in its boxes. Why? What is Apple planning for? I have no clue, but certainly in planning for the future 3-5 years I will buy more (non-upgradeable) RAM, not whatever worked for last year's workflow.
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Apple is likely looking at the fact that the M1 Pro and Max are insanely powerful to not need to rush out M2 variants. Also, the market is likely saturated and most who needed a M1 Pro or Max have already upgraded and not in the market for new one probably for a very long time. Whoever plans on upgrading from the M1 generation is probably gonna be significantly small. There is also the M2 MacBook Air and entry level Pro that satisfies another group of users.
You might say, what about those on the Windows/Intel side? Apple is in a league of its own and don't really see any threat. Don't get me wrong, they do take it seriously, but the fact is, M1 Pro and Max has bought them a lot of time to make a big enough leap when its time for that M1, M1 Pro and Max user does decide to upgrade.
Also, the economy right now is going through uncertainty. Budgets have been cut, users are keeping that money they originally planned on spending for rainy day events. With the potential of recession coming in 2023, I think Apple see's probably in their best interest in trying to deplete inventory and stretch out upgrades. Look at all those discounts for current models on Amazon?