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So I guess this means that the new MBPs won't be coming this year after all? Not that I'm complaining, I'm ok with my current MB.
Nah. I still expect M2 MBPs 2022. There are so many folks like me still on older hardware (mine is 2016 MBP) waiting for M2 to upgrade that it must be hurting sales, and M2 is already out in the lower end boxes, so why not facilitate sales before end-of-year? Plus many businesses like to spend on hardware near year end to help minimize taxes.
 
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I think most of us expect to upgrade the compute portion more often than the display portion. An AIO forces you to either keep a computer longer than you want to or to discard the whole thing, including montor, sooner than you would want. Yes, an AIO is more convenient in some ways but it does force you in an all or nothing upgrade cycle.
Thank you. You've just helped with my decision!
 
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Nah. I still expect M2 MBPs 2022. There are so many folks like me still on older hardware (mine is 2016 MBP) waiting for M2 to upgrade that it must be hurting sales, and M2 is already out in the lower end boxes, so why not facilitate sales before end-of-year? And, many businesses like to spend on hardware near year end to help minimize taxes.
buy the current model or wait until next year
 
buy the current model or wait until next year
Indeed. Like I said, I am waiting for M2. That certainly might be next year, which does not faze me, but it harms Apple's bottom line. Especially since once the 2022 tax year ends there is no rush to spend on hardware improvements. If I make it into spring 2023, then maybe I decide to wait even longer for the N3E chips or whatever.

Or even worse for Apple, whilst waiting for M2 some other shiny trinket like a new $5k camera catches my eye instead, and computer upgrading gets placed on hold...
 
I recently spoke to a premium reseller employee here in Poland and he told me that imacs are the worst selling of all macs, I suspect that it may be the same in other markets. and maybe that's the reason they are being neglected
IMHO I think it has to do with how computers fit their business and households for respective country and the wealth of the populace to afford them.
 
The M2 Mini will have 24 GB of RAM at most, right? What are the chances that it will have more? The Mac Studio starts at 32 GB.
 
I think most of us expect to upgrade the compute portion more often than the display portion. An AIO forces you to either keep a computer longer than you want to or to discard the whole thing, including montor, sooner than you would want. Yes, an AIO is more convenient in some ways but it does force you in an all or nothing upgrade cycle.

This. I am switching from an iMac to MBP and external for this very reason and to add portability in. I do love the iMac but you are stuck with the hardware and the screen once you are in. You are either replacing both or holding until the end of its useful life.
 
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Am I the only one who isn't excited at all about the new MacBook Pros after the disaster that is the refreshed iPad lineup?

Can't help but feel my optimism wither away...
iPad users have no right to even talk about MBPs. Shush, go back to playing with your kiddie toy ;)
 
The M2 Mini will have 24 GB of RAM at most, right? What are the chances that it will have more? The Mac Studio starts at 32 GB.
Yours is a very good question. Apple may add an M2 Pro into the headless desktop box mix, which would probably allow up to a maximum of 32 GB RAM. However, the kinds of apps/workflows that take advantage of additional RAM also tend to create additional heat. Apple may make an arbitrary RAM cutoff for Minis for heat reasons and/or for marketing reasons, since the Studio is there to excel at heat removal.
 
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Im excited about faster MBPs even though I'm not upgrading because it means even faster ones when I do upgrade. They will be nice for people who don't have M1 MBPs yet. I think the new iPads were nice upgrades and I'm not mad at the 2020 iPad Pros either. None of these things are hugely compelling if you have a recent iPad you like, but it's not like you have to upgrade every year. The smart money is on upgrading every other upgrade, or with larger advancements.
Keep in mind that the majority of the speed increase for the M2 was merely by increasing the clock speed (and thus heat and battery drain), and increasing the gpu count. It has the same 5nm process, so it's an "S" model at best. Not exciting.
 
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Keep in mind that the majority of the speed increase for the M2 was merely by increasing the clock speed (and thus heat and battery drain), and increasing the gpu count. It has the same 5nm process, so it's an "S" model at best. Not exciting.
A year newer with Apple engineers spending that year (tens of thousands of engineer hours) improving on what M1 was. Suggesting that M2 is simply a clock speed bump is flat wrong. It is exciting to me and to many other folks upgrading from Intel Macs.
 
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In future, please post your purchases so that we can make plans for upgraded product, Pinky. 😊

If only I knew ahead of time that I was going to buy something that was going to be ruled 'old', before I bought it.

Oh, wait. I DO KNOW.

So I guess if I don't buy any more Apple products, they won't be able to update anything. OH THAT WOULD SUCK FOR ALL OF YOU, WOULDN'T IT! :D:D:D:D
 
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Apple is shooting themselves in the foot with no affordable 27 inch iMac. My grandma needs a new computer, she has a 2011 Mac mini with a Dell 24 inch monitor. She used to have a 2008 iMac at 24 inches. She wouldn’t mind going back to an all in one, but wants a 27 inch display. So I am patiently waiting for the M2 mac mini for her. So we will pay Apple around 700-800, and Dell will get 500 for a nice new 27 inch LCD. Why isn’t apple selling a 27 inch iMac for 1500-1800? There’s absolutely a market there.
 
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Oh wow, that brings back horrible memories. I was bitten by the Mac IIcx, having bought it for over $6000, and a few months later Apple comes out with the IIci. Yes, this was during the days when Apple computers cost well over $5000 for their consumer computers. I think that might have been the shortest time between Mac releases ever.

Looking it up, the Mac IIcx came out in March 1989 and the IIci came out in September 1989. The IIci was a significant power increase, going from a Motorola 68030 running at 16MHz to a 68030 running at 25MHz. Those were dark days.

I was also bitten by the shortest upgrade cycle for iPads, having bought the iPad 3, which came out in March 2012, and then the iPad 4 came out in October 2012 with a dramatic power increase.

But the real problem between the IIcx and IIci was that the IIcx had 'dirty ROMs'. The IIci was probably rushed to market to 'fix' the problem with the ROMs. So programmers had to program around the flaws in the cx ROMs, where the ci ROMs were 'perfect'.

What burned me from Apple products for quite a while was that Apple actually put ROM slots on the cx, and refused to release ROM SIMMs that would have nearly updated the cx to a ci, with fresh 'clean ROMs'. The weak excuse was that 'someone might copy the new ROMs and have a leg up on the Mac UI. Well, sure, but steve already gave it away to Bill G in a chummy meeting and tour, so who would actually be copying those ROM SIMMs? Hmm? They were protected by law, so what was the real issue? 'Closedboxitis'? Paranoia? Hubris?

You put a dedicated slot to replace the ROMs. You find a flaw in the ROMs. You refuse to release SIMMs to put in that dedicated slot, BUT release a new system and require people buy that to get the fix? Wow...

EDIT: Memories: I remember reading an article in Byte or somewhere, that said Apple had the ROM SIMMs all ready to be shipped, but steve killed it. The idea was people would get 'free' SIMMs to stick in that slot, and some 'special people' had already received them and declared them 'perfect'.
 
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Keep in mind that the majority of the speed increase for the M2 was merely by increasing the clock speed (and thus heat and battery drain), and increasing the gpu count. It has the same 5nm process, so it's an "S" model at best. Not exciting.
I know all of that but don't care. I like seeing Macs getting faster and the speed improvements will be nice for people who decided to wait for the second-generation AS computers. The M2-Pro/Max will be especially nice for video producers because of the dedicated media engine hardware. There is no way that when Apple designed the new MBPs they didn't plan on cooling versions of the M which run hotter with heatsinks and fans.

Bring on the M2 MBPs.... and then bring on the M3s. It's all good.
 
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