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Gurman: Apple to Announce New iPad Pro With M2 Chip This Tuesday

Logic Pro on the IPad with M2 would kill. I would easily buy it. Work on projects on the go, not be tethered to a desk or laptop would be cool.
 
I remember one time they did like an announcement each day. Maybe its realistic to expect something like:

-Tuesday: M2 iPad Pro
-Wednesday: M2 Mac Mini
-Thurday: 10th gen iPad
-Friday: M2 Pro/Max Macbook Pro

Or maybe just the first three product in 1-2 days (iPads today + Macs tomorrow, maybe adding a M2 iMac).
 
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Duel said:
Upgrade from my 2017 Pro going to be big, but i still hope there's more than just M2. But i will get lot of new for my money anyway. For example the screen will look lot better than my current one, even if it's not Mini-LED
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I’m upgrading from a 2017 12.9 iPad Pro. if they don’t update anything other than the processor, I’m just gonna grab an M1, and save some money
 
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Hopefully once the M2 iPad is released, we will get some M1 ipads on the Refurb store in the UK at decent prices.

Unless there are substantial other changes, I would rather save a few hundred quid on an M1 refurb than a brand new M2.
 
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Retskrad said:
Wow, the iPad section of this forum is so negative. If you are a fan of technology, why would a spec bump be a negative thing? Users of the Apple Watch, AirPods, Mac, iPhone don't complain nearly as much when there are spec bumps. I guess the question is, do you really like the iPad?
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Because the iPad needs a design change. The camera setup for starters is laughably bad for a device that is meant to be used in landscape mode.
 
Unregistered 4U said:
a) iPad app pricing can support price points up to £999. But, I think what they’d do it as a subscription.
b) Interestingly enough, when the rumors started last year, JUST before WWDC, LumaFusion announced an upcoming expansion to Android. Could be they already know and are getting ready to become the premier video editor on Android. Logic Pro wouldn’t be as much of a big deal because there are a LOT of DAWs on iPad already and folks will still use what they’ve already gotten comfortable with.
c) They likely make more profit per iPad sale than Mac sale as every iPad sale is future potential App Store sales. Some of the desktop plugin vendors who decide to offer a iPad version may want to sell their iPad version plugin separately. That’s more money.
d) I can certainly see how it wouldn’t be something folks would want to do. Some folks wouldn’t even want to use a laptop and, for their work, would consider anything less than a fully loaded Mac Studio with multiple monitors torture. BUT, there are, in reality, far more people NOT editing trailers or theatrical movies using Final Cut Pro than are. There are far more people without plugins and third party tools than are (not for lack of desire, but lack of funds). That huge number of people wouldn’t be restricted in the slightest.

Not that I think it’s on the cusp, but I’ve gotten to the point to where my thoughts are the only reason why it hasn’t been released for iPad is just because it’s not a part of their product plan. There’s little technical or process-wise that would prevent it.
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When I mentioned price points I was more thinking about what consumers expect to pay for apps on the platform, not the price you can set. As you say, you'd have to do a subscription service to get away with a higher price point. But I'm not aware of any apple pro app that is on subscription.

For Apple I'm not sure subscription makes sense because the reality is their pro tools are essentially advertising or loss leaders for selling expensive Macs. I would even be surprised if their Pro software section has a separate profit and loss on their books.

I doubt they make more money per iPad unit sale than per Mac. You only have to look at the markup for memory from 512 to 1TB on Mac's to know that they make a killing on these sales. But in aggregate, considering how many more units the iPad sales vs the Mac it may be similar in total income. Not sure.

The only issue is that I expect that even though iPads can sell for $1000 I expect that the average selling price is probably $300-$400 dollars. The Mac ASP will be over $1000. So the Mac seems to be the more "profitable" business, but it might not generate as much total revenue.

I just think that Final Cut on the iPad would be more a psychological achievement, designed to move iPad into the real "serious" territory. But my only issue with that is we've seen Adobe do it with Photoshop, Microsoft do with Office and still it didnt really change the perception amongst the Apple blogger community that the iPad is not a serious tool.

I think the iPad can be and is a serious tool and does not need FCP to validate that. But its hard to get the apple fans to believe that... all psychology!
 
Sheepish-Lord said:
What could possibly make someone upgrade from an M1? New color, front camera location change, magsafe…
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Better miniLED on the 12.9" with far less blooming, and software features unlocked by M2 and higher RAM (assuming there's a RAM upgrade) such that FCP launches, but only for M2.

P.S. I don't see either of this happening, but can see how such changes might tempt some on M1 iPad Pros to upgrade (beyond those who will upgrade just because it's newer).
 
Sheepish-Lord said:
What could possibly make someone upgrade from an M1? New color, front camera location change, magsafe…
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Honestly the jump from the previous year to the M1 wasn't much of an upgrade. Apple saying that they put the M1 into the 2021 iPad was just marketing. The iPad was already using Apple's chip so it wasn't like going from intel to Silicone like with the Macs. It was a modest upgrade at best. I guess you could say the mini led was nice but it isn't that much of a difference from LCD on the previous iPad Pro.
 
aleksander said:
What apps do you use that would need an M2? I'm still on iPad Pro 10.5 and can't say I'm missing anything.
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None. The base model iPad and highest end iPad Pro can all run the same apps. The iPad Pro can just run them a tiny bit faster.

Until Apple decides the iPad Pro is going to be separated from the rest of the iPads that's the way it will always be.
 
threesixty360 said:
But I'm not aware of any apple pro app that is on subscription.

For Apple I'm not sure subscription makes sense because the reality is their pro tools are essentially advertising or loss leaders for selling expensive Macs. I would even be surprised if their Pro software section has a separate profit and loss on their books.
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There’s not, but there was a rumor from awhile back that saw subscription variables in the code. Just guessing. And, if I try to imagine how FCP would go subscription, having an iPad version as a “rent when you need it” instead of a main driver might fit such a use case.

threesixty360 said:
I doubt they make more money per iPad unit sale than per Mac. You only have to look at the markup for memory from 512 to 1TB on Mac's to know that they make a killing on these sales. But in aggregate, considering how many more units the iPad sales vs the Mac it may be similar in total income. Not sure.
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It is indeed similar in total revenue as evidenced by their reporting, and has been similar for years. When you add to that, the fact that the services revenue is growing and that a Mac user can opt out of a lot of that an an iPad user can’t, it must be true that the iPad is responsible for more of that services revenue than the Mac.

threesixty360 said:
I just think that Final Cut on the iPad would be more a psychological achievement, designed to move iPad into the real "serious" territory. But my only issue with that is we've seen Adobe do it with Photoshop, Microsoft do with Office and still it didnt really change the perception amongst the Apple blogger community that the iPad is not a serious tool.
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Fortunately for Apple, the blogger community adds up to several tens of thousands of sales. Maybe. :) There are still a very large number of folks that don’t follow the blogger community or are one of the millions that already “get” the iPad. And, the blogger community’s “can’t replace your laptop” means little to someone that’s already replaced their laptop!

threesixty360 said:
But its hard to get the apple fans to believe that... all psychology!
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I’d say it’s primarily hard to get Mac fans to believe that. :) “Serious tool” means something very specific to them. The iPad will never be that, so they’ll never believe it’s a serious tool. Fortunately for Apple, folks growing up today have a different idea about what a serious tool is (they’ve never owned a desktop and never want to own one). They don’t have to impress those who personally used a Mac Classic, they just have to impress those who’s first computing experience was their parent’s iPhone.
 
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ifxf said:
I wonder how much heavier it will be since they won’t be able to use a metal back with wireless charging.
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I doubt they’ll ditch the entire metal back; they’ll probably just have a glass spot (enlarged Apple logo?) through which to charge via MagSafe, if they’re going that route.
 
Unregistered 4U said:
I’d say it’s primarily hard to get Mac fans to believe that. :) “Serious tool” means something very specific to them. The iPad will never be that, so they’ll never believe it’s a serious tool. Fortunately for Apple, folks growing up today have a different idea about what a serious tool is (they’ve never owned a desktop and never want to own one). They don’t have to impress those who personally used a Mac Classic, they just have to impress those who’s first computing experience was their parent’s iPhone.
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yeah. I agree. People love to hold on to the old way of life forgetting that the new kids coming up dont care about it and never knew it. Dont let the past hold you back!
 
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SamboSoul said:
Same here, rocking the 2017 iPP. It surely does everything I need it to do, in terms of performance the current iPad Air is more than sufficient to me, however, I have grown to love the better speakers & ProMotion display of the Pro. If the 2022 iPP update is incremental, I actually consider getting the 2021 iPP at discounted price as again, it is more than future-proof for what I am doing with it.
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I’m thinking the exact same thing. What do you think a good price for a 2021 Wi-Fi 1TB iPad pro would be?
 
rp2011 said:
With the M2 being more power hungry in such a tight enclosure, I would seriously advice people to wait for reviews before preordering.
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Apple has already proven the M2 works with negligible thermal management with the M2 MBA :)

I used to think that was a bad thing, but now I'm ready for a future with advanced chips that have little or no need for passive thermal management, if that!
 
I wouldn't be surprised to not see a price increase or see them make the Pro much more attractive than the Air despite the $200 extra. IN other words the iPHone 14 Pro treatment. Maybe it's too early for them to do that the iPad Pro yet. But given rising costs I would think they would find a way to cover those costs.
 
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