Gurman: Face ID on the Mac Coming Within a 'Couple of Years'

Re: Face ID... am I the only one who thinks it's taking longer to work in the last few versions of iOS and iPadOS? It doesn't seem to matter whether light is good or not. I'm not saying it doesn't work - only that it seems to take longer for facial recognition to do its thing.
 
dypeterc said:
I don’t believe it. They’ll stick with TouchID as it provides a more secure interaction. With TouchID, you have to intentionally and physically interact with the machine which is a single interaction. If they did FaceID, you’d have to present your face and interact physically with the machine (ie double press a button like with your iPhone or iPad) which is more complex.
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Actually, they could have both and let the end user decide if they want to use FaceID, TouchId, FaceID and TouchID or any of the above along with 2FA via text/call/email. The camera will be FaceID capable anyway and they are working on screens (right now aimed at iPhones/iPads) with built in touchId.

Plus your iPhone or watch can also unlock….
 
Nicole1980 said:
He threw in 'sheep' as a little dig to those people who dont get it.
So the 'name calling' wasnt his "argument", rather a nice little punctuation on the good argument he did make.
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Calling people sheep is not 'a nice little punctuation', it shows you don't take them or their arguments seriously. Not just bad manners, it undermines the discussion.
 
seek3r said:
Why would I want facial recognition as an authorization reature on a device I *sit in front of and stare at all day*? Remember, touchID isnt just for logging in! Not to mention it means I can’t keep the camera covered when I’m not in a meeting….

Also they just made it easy to use touchid on devices that arent pointed at you (mac minis, laptops in clamshell mode while docked, eventually the mac pro, etc), why would they swap that for tech that requires a camera that may not be available?

I have my doubts on this
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Wow
 
dwaite said:
There is no such thing as 2-factor biometric authentication. The factors have to be different categories - knowledge, possession, and biometrics.

Each category has have different strengths and weaknesses, but you don't overcome the weakness by 'doubling up' in a category.

The device itself is leveraged as the possession biometric in many modern scenarios, while in the past it was something like a key fob/yubikey. Thats why iPhone progresses from 2 factor on reboot (PIN knowledge and phone access) to a faster 2 factor (phone access and biometrics check).
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I understand how 2-factor works. But you cannot deny that it would not only be more convenient but also more secure if you require both face and fingerprint from a single user. That's all I'm saying.
 
Face ID on a iMac acutally makes sense. Never made much sense on a iPhone were Touch ID is clearly superior from a ergonomic standpoint.
 
I wish they would stop using that image of the "iMac" that people expected. So many were disappointed when we didn't get that instead of a "chinned, white-bezelled monstrosity". ;) (I love the new iMacs)

But seriously, Face ID on the iMac was a no-brainer... I was genuinely surprised they did not include it with the new iMac and went with Touch ID instead.

Perhaps it has to do with Apple envisioning the iMac as a work AND home system, where one environment may require face coverings and the other would not...

But I tend to go with the belief that it's just another feature in their hip pocket to be dropped further down the line.
 
Singin Hobo said:
In any case, this sort of spying on individuals or corporate entities isn’t exactly unheard of.
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Oh you're right... I was just being silly. :D

But to your point... it's funny how people seem so worried about covering their webcam to prevent corporate spying... but they do nothing about the microphone.

You can put a Post-It Note over the webcam, or buy stickers to cover it, or one of those sliding covers, etc. But no one thinks about audio.

If I wanted to hack some CEOs computer to spy on them... I'd much rather hear what they are saying. I don't need to see them.

I already know what Tim Cook and Mark Zuckerberg look like.

But I'd love to HEAR what they are saying in their private conversations...

:p
 
MacRumors said:


Apple plans to bring Face ID to the Mac within the next "couple of years," respected Bloomberg journalist Mark Gurman said today in the latest edition of his Power On newsletter.

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In the newsletter, Gurman says that he believes Apple's ultimate goal is to shift all of its products to Face ID, including the lower-end iPhones such as the iPhone SE and the iPad Air, which feature Touch ID. Gurman says Touch ID remains an important part of Apple's product lineup, especially for lower-end models, thanks to it being a "cheaper alternative" to Face ID while continuing to provide security to users.
Gurman had previously reported that as Apple was planning its recently launched redesigned 24-inch iMac, it had initially planned to include Face ID, but that Face ID implementation has been delayed to an upcoming iMac redesign instead. Unlike iPhones and iPads, Mac laptop screens are significantly thinner, making it harder to fit the necessary depth sensors for Face ID, Gurman notes.

Further down the line, Gurman says Apple will eventually embed Face ID into the screens themselves, abandoning the need for a notch on the iPhone. Apple analyst Ming-Chi Kuo believes such an iPhone may debut as early as 2023. As for the Mac desktop, Apple is continuing to develop a replacement for the 27-inch iMac which may feature a larger screen and a more powerful "M2X" chip. Apple earlier this year paused work on the larger iMac to focus on the 24-inch iMac, which was released this past April.

Article Link: Gurman: Face ID on the Mac Coming Within a 'Couple of Years'
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Could have sworn I heard a rumor about face id coming soon to MBPs. (??)
 
4743913 said:
you called the act of installing software on your computer outside of the Mac App Store "sideloading".

you are definitely one of the "phone people". 😀
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You’re trolling at this point, but ok, I’ll bite - I just used the term to explain “installing apps outside of what you consider locked down Apple system”. I’ve been using PCs and Macs (Hackintoshes, too) before iPhone even existed. But you got me! Wow.

You’re still wrong about the future of Mac.
 
Nicole1980 said:
He made an argument for not having a walled garden (programs that wont work anymore). He threw in 'sheep' as a little dig to those people who dont get it.
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He called people who disagree “sheep”. It was an insulting and dismissive remark, not a “little dig”. Also, I totally get it, I just don’t think he’s right (that Mac will become this walled garden when it comes to apps).
 
UMHurricanes34 said:
Don’t understand why this is taking Apple so long. The Mac is arguably the strongest use case for FaceID.
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It's going to be a new "revolutionary" feature to entice people to upgrade machines...well, that in conjunction with garbage baseline specs of non-upgradeable RAM/SSD.. They can't release all the possible features at once...because then who'd buy 2 years from now's model? Take a look at the 2012 MBP, people are still rocking those. You think Apple is happy about that?
 
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