Gurman: iOS 16 to Include New Ways of System Interaction and 'Fresh Apple Apps'

[3rdiguy]

I’d love a iPadOS Pro Mode. Would definitely push me to upgrade my 18 iPad Pro

 

[bluecoast]

yesterday while using my iPhone I felt that the software design just 'doesn't' belong to planet earth... the colors, the 2D look, no shadow, no depth etc, looks alienist to me at this point to be honest.

i think it's time to move away from flat, no depth and no details design and return to a much more earth like materials UI, not skeuomorphism which mimics a real world object, a new design language where the software look like being made from glass, metal, stone etc but in a new and more modern design, a more detailed oriented crafted UI (a crafted aluminum volume knob instead of round white circle without any details for example)

IMO that flat design trend which came from the fashion industry doesn't really have a soul.

Agreed.

I think we will see a neomorphic redesign for iOS etc but I wonder if it’ll be after we see the AR/VR stuff.

Presumably the OS for that will use that 3D-ish look and Apple will want to splash / focus the new product category with that.

 

[urnotl33t]

It would be nice to have multiuser capability on iOS and iPadOS.
For now I have to use several browsers to maintain several accounts from the same websites.
Would be nice just to use a gesture and switch to another user account. It’s certainly not a storage or memory problem or performance.

That's not an OS-level issue.

 

[Hessel89]

if Apple gives us the full desktop version of Logic Pro X with rosetta and Audio Unit support I might ditch the Mac.

 

[Steve121178]

Gurman is a bit of a fraud. He essentially plays safe with his "predications" and "inside scoops" by stating the bleeding obvious all the time!

At one point he was worth listening to, but not anymore.

 

[Shalev Lazarof]

Agreed.

I think we will see a neomorphic redesign for iOS etc but I wonder if it’ll be after we see the AR/VR stuff.

Presumably the OS for that will use that 3D-ish look and Apple will want to splash / focus the new product category with that.

I don't think neomorphic design is the direction apple need to take, basically it is flat design + shadows & depth, nothing more.
IMO, apple direction should be a crafted modern UI design which is made from planet earth materials, to make the software feel like it is made from the same materials around you while perfectly blend with the hardware.

 

[Razorpit]

Buy a good app. Jeez. You can crash a thousand dollars on an iPad but not a few dollars on a good calculator or a subscription to a good weather app?

Sorry, not paying $40/year for a weather app. I made the mistake once of supporting Weather Line, paid for the lifetime version only for them to sell the app to some unknown developer shortly thereafter.

yesterday while using my iPhone I felt that the software design just 'doesn't' belong to planet earth... the colors, the 2D look, no shadow, no depth etc, looks alienist to me at this point to be honest.

i think it's time to move away from flat, no depth and no details design and return to a much more earth like materials UI, not skeuomorphism which mimics a real world object, a new design language where the software look like being made from glass, metal, stone etc but in a new and more modern design, a more detailed oriented crafted UI (a crafted aluminum volume knob instead of round white circle without any details for example)

IMO that flat design trend which came from the fashion industry doesn't really have a soul.

To be honest I think that describes Silicon Valley as of late. 😉

Improving any Apple apps is welcome. Almost all of them need it

Be careful what you wish for. "Improving" generally doesn't mean the same to Apple as it does to you and me. I foresee tons of new bugs and spending hours trying to figure out where to tap/slide/spin or whatever else crazy 💩 the UI team comes up with.

Then, hear me out, be willing to pay a developer a nominal fee both for their work as well as to offset costs in obtaining weather data from an API and serving that back out to customers. That’s not free, and with Apple making it increasingly difficult for the ad industry to make money on iOS (for better or worse), the breakeven solution for existing “free” apps is more ads.

If you use your iPad with a keyboard, you can use the built-in search feature as a calculator without even leaving the app you’re in. ⌘Space and type in your calculation and it’s done. If you don’t have a keyboard, the search feature can also be accessed by pulling down the lock screen and then swiping down.

While factually true, using the search feature as a calculator is a horrendous experience for anything more than a simple equation. And I did support Weather Line, only to be burned by them shortly thereafter. I'm done paying for a weather app.

The stock calculator sucks, why bother? Tydlig is the best calculator I have used on my iPhone and iPad for many years now.

I've been a PCALC user for probably at least a decade. Just checked out Tydlig, 😲! Thank you for the suggestion.

I hope iOS 16 does more with LIDAR. Use it to scan objects or rooms…make a 3D model…perhaps use this model in CAD or Photoshop or Pages. The longer and closer a person scans an object the more refined and detailed the model

Carrot weather and Pcalc are solid, non-ad supported weather and calculator apps that work well on the iPad.

PCALC is awesome, Carrot costs $40/year. No thanks.

They should just remove LiDAR it’s a waste of space in an iPhone

I forgot it's even there.

I just want to see effort made with Shortcuts, Automations, HomeKit & Matter, and Focus Modes. I expect that I'll be disappointed.

Automation's is pretty much useless for me. Any app I want to actually spend the time to write an automation for, I can't. And anyone you can does what I want it to do.

 

[Shalev Lazarof]

To be honest I think that describes Silicon Valley as of late. 😉

couldn't agree more.

 

[Smearbrick]

New system interaction? Will be required to lick the screen?

 

[urnotl33t]

How about let's just make accessing the notification center gesture consistent regardless of what screen you are on.

I should be able to swipe down from the top edge of my screen ANYWHERE and open notifications.

Currently this only works on the home screen and in apps on my iPhone - but not the lock screen, I have to swipe up from the middle of the screen on JUST the lock screen.

And on my iPad swiping down from the top edge only opens notifications on the home screen. NOT on the lock screen OR in apps.

What is wrong with Apple UX designers? I thought swipe down from the top to view notifications was a universally agreed upon mobile UI convention at this point?!

I believe you can enable this in Settings - notifications.

 

[jonnyb098]

iOS stopped being iconic since iOS 7. That redesign was quite awful. It has been polished a bit over the years but it’s still quite bad. A complete reset is needed.

Apple needs to squash A LOT of bugs before even thinking about a redesign.

 

[jonnyb098]

Gotta get the clicks and $$

Per usual it’s to keep people reading. He will dump all the goods the week or day before WWDC.

 

[jonblatho]

Sorry, not paying $40/year for a weather app. I made the mistake once of supporting Weather Line, paid for the lifetime version only for them to sell the app to some unknown developer shortly thereafter.

You know you can ask Apple for a refund in cases like this, right? You paid for functionality that went away. (ETA: Not sure if you’d receive one this late in the game, but if you had done so soon after that announcement I’d say it’s very likely you’d have received a full refund.)

Because of Apple's App Store policies, the developer can't offer it themselves upon request, let alone just hand out refunds, but usually it’s the case when there's a buyout like that...current subscribers either often get the chance to finish out their subscription or receive either a prorated or full refund as appropriate.

While factually true, using the search feature as a calculator is a horrendous experience for anything more than a simple equation. And I did support Weather Line, only to be burned by them shortly thereafter. I'm done paying for a weather app.

While I did so on macOS, I used the Spotlight calculator to do entire math-heavy homework assignments in a pinch as a STEM major in college. It's not "horrendous" at all — though obviously a real scientific calculator was preferable, the best calculator is the one you have with you. I'd argue it's quite a bit better than the regular Calculator app for anything past simple arithmetic because you can see what you’ve entered and correct any errors in-place instead of having to start over.

 

[Paddle1]

Maybe (definitely) I am dumb. What is an interactive widget?

A widget that you can tap on and interact with without opening the respective app, for example a calculator widget.

 

[kyleh22]

iPad calculator and weather app please!

 

[cocky jeremy]

Actually no there aren’t. At least what’s free is becoming garbage and riddled with ads like weather channel app on iPad. Don’t even defend apple on that one. Everyone knows it’s getting pathetic at this point the damn iPad doesn’t have a built in calculator either.

Quit using free garbage. You get what you pay for. If a calculator app is that important to you, buy a good one.

 

[jonnyb098]

Quit using free garbage. You get what you pay for. If a calculator app is that important to you, buy a good one.

So you don’t think its at all weird that the watch, phone and mac have a calculator app but the iPad doesn’t? GOT IT!

Seriously, defending apple on this by anyone is a giant head scratcher

 

[VaeVictis]

MacOS - option to disable disable orange dot (it shows what device is using speakers) on full screen, implement Rectangle and Boom2 functionality by default.

WatchOS - option to disable autocorrect.

Automator on everything - option to automatic run automated functions, have it to change Watch Face, but need to always click run or else it does not work.

Stocks app - option to add more cryptocurrencies.

Mail app - more flag colour options.

iCloud - upgrade to 10 Gb for starter free package!

All - option to add more languages to autocorrect, spellcheck and dictionary.

These are necessary!

 

[rockosmodurnlif]

Maybe I’ll finally be able to copy and paste an event in calendar

 

[pplfn]

idk why people want a redesign so badly. iOS is iconic and looks great as it is and the general look is shared across all Apple platforms. A new design would only bring a ton of bugs, inconstancy with many third-party apps and complains from many people.

But hey, at least it would feel new for a month.

I think you are right today but to keep that shared look across all Apple platforms, there should be at least one more redesign to include AR/VR in those platforms.

 

[maxoakland]

I also need a new Home Screen. Don’t ask me for specifics, just “new” 😉

The home screen should be updated to let you put icons wherever you want. It’s annoying that you can’t have any empty spaces

 

[Razorpit]

You know you can ask Apple for a refund in cases like this, right? You paid for functionality that went away. (ETA: Not sure if you’d receive one this late in the game, but if you had done so soon after that announcement I’d say it’s very likely you’d have received a full refund.)

Because of Apple's App Store policies, the developer can't offer it themselves upon request, let alone just hand out refunds, but usually it’s the case when there's a buyout like that...current subscribers either often get the chance to finish out their subscription or receive either a prorated or full refund as appropriate.


While I did so on macOS, I used the Spotlight calculator to do entire math-heavy homework assignments in a pinch as a STEM major in college. It's not "horrendous" at all — though obviously a real scientific calculator was preferable, the best calculator is the one you have with you. I'd argue it's quite a bit better than the regular Calculator app for anything past simple arithmetic because you can see what you’ve entered and correct any errors in-place instead of having to start over.

Weather Line did what they did and Apple let them. You're right, I should have at least attempted to get a refund, however this shows that most subscription based apps are flawed. Not saying there isn't a use for them for things like entertainment services, but not for something as basic as this. In the end I lost money supporting the developer and purchasing the app outright. I will avoid any future apps from this developer and/or using this revenue model.

Sure, if I were in a pinch (and remembered) I'd use the search tool as well, but lets get real, a.) most users forget or do not realize you can do this, and b.) it's a horrible experience even if you do remember. The search bar is not a substitute for a basic calculator app.

 

[imnotthewalrus]

I feel like he’s just talking without any credible information. I really don’t understand what he’s saying. Sorry, but it’s so vague

Yeah…but I also believe he is “pressured” to deliver Apple news, even when there isn’t any. MR is guilty of the same.

 

[johnnytravels]

I want a better Mail app. I’m currently using Spark and it’s beginning to suck because syncing is off.

 

[Tagbert]

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PCALC is awesome, Carrot costs $40/year. No thanks.

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Carrot has both free and "pro" levels. The Pro just allows more customizations.