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Small correction to the article: IPhone 13 Pro’s Promotion display CAN’T go as low as 1Hz, at most 10Hz. That makes the always on display not feasible for the 13 Pro phones.
If it's possible at 10Hz, add it as a feature for the 13 line and let the user decide if the possible hit in battery life is worth it. The way that Apple optimizes everything, I doubt it would be a problem.
 
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I'm curious: why do you have no interest in this feature? Serious question. Because I'm of the mind that I can't wait for this and I've been clamoring for it for years, but I'm always one to weigh the merits of the other side as well...

Every time I go to look at my watch it turns on and i can see it fine. I really do not have a need for it to be always on. I appreciate others will love the feature, but some you like, some you don't. And this one I have no interest in - just the way I use my devices I guess.
Maybe with the phone it will be a bit different I guess, since I have to tap to view anything at the moment. So maybe I'll give it a try. But it's certainly not a feature I'm excited about.

The watch isn't a watch without the feature. Cannot fathom someone's reasoning behind turning it off. Zero benefit to turning it off. You probably still believe it drains the battery, which it does not.

It is for me. I don't have to use my watch the way you use your watch - or even the way Apple intends for people to use their watches. It has nothing to do with battery, and never have I mentioned it's because of battery drain. As I stated above, for me and the way I use my watch, it's on every time I want to look at it. That's all I need.

Again, as I said above, I appreciate others will be excited about this feature. I am not, and I'm just voicing my opinion. I respect the fact it's a feature that will be helpful for you and I wouldn't try to persuade you any other way. This is exactly why Apple allow features to be switched on and off. Personalise and enjoy your device the way you want to.
 
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Better have an excellent touch rejection so my thigh doesn't call the cops, haha.
 
Every time I go to look at my watch it turns on and i can see it fine. I really do not have a need for it to be always on. I appreciate others will love the feature, but some you like, some you don't. And this one I have no interest in - just the way I use my devices I guess.
Maybe with the phone it will be a bit different I guess, since I have to tap to view anything at the moment. So maybe I'll give it a try. But it's certainly not a feature I'm excited about.



It is for me. I don't have to use my watch the way you use your watch - or even the way Apple intends for people to use their watches. It has nothing to do with battery, and never have I mentioned it's because of battery drain. As I stated above, for me and the way I use my watch, it's on every time I want to look at it. That's all I need.

Again, as I said above, I appreciate others will be excited about this feature. I am not, and I'm just voicing my opinion. I respect the fact it's a feature that will be helpful for you and I wouldn't try to persuade you any other way. This is exactly why Apple allow features to be switched on and off. Personalise and enjoy your device the way you want to.
It irritates me to no end when people turn off features that are meant to be on, without any justification whatsoever.
 
If it's possible at 10Hz, add it as a feature for the 13 line and let the user decide if the possible hit in battery life is worth it. The way that Apple optimizes everything, I doubt it would be a problem.
It’s more than possible. Android devices with OLED screens have been running AOD’s with screens for a long time starting with most being 60hz … The difference on battery gain between 1hz and 10hz would be tiny in the overall scheme of things - indeed as already stated AOD was planned to be implemented for the 13 pro line. The only reason Apple will not implement the feature on the 13 Pro / Pro Max is to give the 14 pro range a false advantage. We know apple likes to withhold features from older products which can handle them fine, simply to make upgrading more desirable. If Apple truly cared about their ‘eco’ ness, they would add as many software features and AOD is a software feature, to their existing capable products and reduce the requirement of people to purchase newer phones. But of course this doesn’t make sense where $ is the true motivator of these kind of decisions.
 
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On the contrary, consumers will see the 14 Max as the largest iPhone for $300 less than the 14 Pro Max. I doubt people would be directly comparing the 14 Max with the 14 Pro as they have different screen size.

For us geeks, we might tabulate the price to the features we get, and thus make the conclusion that the Pro is a better deal. The lay consumers have a much more basic decision path, ie. how big is the screen for the dollar. And the 14 Max will also be battery life champion with the tried and tested A15 and 60Hz screen.

So Apple, again, managed to catch both customer segments. For the lay consumers, Apple will be able to charge them $100 with cost saving more by offering a larger screen and previous gen chip, while Apple manage to upsell people like you to pay even more money with dazzling specs and features with the Pro models.
No you’re absolutely right. I overlooked that, and the comparison is between the two Max’s. Absolutely.

I still think the comparison shopping applies, and any shopper paying attention will easily move to the Pro, since there is a big difference in better features in Pro, and you’re “already spending a bunch of money, so why not get the best?”

It’s surprising to me to see the number of people who don’t care about cellphones (e.g. put them in gaudy large cases) own a Pro.
 
I'm curious: why do you have no interest in this feature? Serious question. Because I'm of the mind that I can't wait for this and I've been clamoring for it for years, but I'm always one to weigh the merits of the other side as well...
For me it’s battery life. I really enjoy not having to worry about my watch needing a charge everyday. Also battery health: Watch will last longer.

So it’s really that the AOD brings no value other than “cool factor”, and I value battery life more.

I’ve been wearing Apple Watch for almost seven years now and I’m used to lifting my wrist to activate. And the sensors are so good, they detect a slight wrist movement to activate screen which is good enough!
 
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The watch isn't a watch without the feature. Cannot fathom someone's reasoning behind turning it off. Zero benefit to turning it off. You probably still believe it drains the battery, which it does not.
It certainly does use more battery. I’ve had AW6 since release date.
 
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I'll turn off the feature immediately because I don't need it but I still see this as great news because of what I hope will be a consequence of adding the feature. I assume that Apple isn't going to want to announce reduced battery life vs the 13 Pro/Pro-Max when the feature is enabled so will have got some good power efficiency improvements elsewhere to offset whatever extra power drain always-on does add. Hopefully that will mean that people like me who disable the always-on feature will see another worthwhile jump in battery life from the 13 Pro models to the 14 Pro models. Apple has been on a bit of a roll in the last 5 years or so with good, sometimes great, battery life improvements most years (I's say only the 11 to 12 series was when it stalled a bit). This makes me hope that 2022 might continue the trend.
 
It irritates me to no end when people turn off features that are meant to be on, without any justification whatsoever.

Justified it for MYSELF with MY uses.
My use case differs from yours, so there's no reason why it should irritate you. Nothing says the feature is 'meant to be on'. That's why there are options to switch features off!
 
Justified it for MYSELF with MY uses.
My use case differs from yours, so there's no reason why it should irritate you. Nothing says the feature is 'meant to be on'. That's why there are options to switch features off!
You don't have a use case.

Nothing says the feature is 'meant to be on'.
Yep, the fact that it was on to begin with.

That's why there are options to switch features off!
That's not why. It's because lawyers have the final say at Apple, not engineers.
 
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You don't have a use case.


Yep, the fact that it was on to begin with.


That's not why. It's because lawyers have the final say at Apple, not engineers.

It doesn't matter who has the final say, the option is there for people to use.
Sorry I don't use my handset the way you want me to!
 
No, I was saying it is nothing special in terms of upgrades and that AOD is nothing new (except to apple users).
I guess my concept of boring is the opposite of people excited to purchase. While we know a lot of the hardware details and a lot of the software details we still don’t really know how Apple is going to combine these, and that remains exciting to me… So I’m not bored at all.
 
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