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Gurman: M1 Pro Mac Mini 'Now Off the Table' as Apple's Focus Turns to M2 and M2 Pro Options
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I copy from the card to my computer’s hard drive first, then edit/save back to that same hard drive. I have a Synology NAS and I usually move my projects there once I think that I’m done with them.
Mac Studio is definitely the "Mac mini Pro" that was rumored. I don't get why Gurman doesn't explain this, it's so obvious.
And to those still daydreaming, what even would a "Mac mini Pro" be other than what Mac Studio offers? Aside from an M2 chip, there's no way it would be more powerful than Mac Studio or be equally powerful but lower priced.
And on that note, I really feel like this is all about price -People want a desktop M2 Mac that is on par with Mac Studio but costs less.
Never happening.
If Apple puts out a new mini in the near future then it'll be another entry-level product like M1 mini just with a newer chip, M2 or M3, depending on when (and if) this happens. Mac Studio is 100% the "Mac mini Pro", end of discussion.
Yes. The Intel powered mac mini is literally holding its place in the store right now...
As others have mentioned, neither the Mac Mini or the Studio currently offer an M# Pro chip. So again, yes there is a place for it between the two offerings.
That's the thing that seemingly no one in here gets -Mac Studio IS Apple's $1999-$3999 midrange desktop without a display and thus there is not room in the lineup for another midrange Mac without a display with better or worse specs in the same $1999-$3999 price range.
Apple never pits its' own products (in a given product category) against each other so a Mac mini M2 priced above $699 but below $1999 is barely worth putting out as it would only serve to kill nearly all Mac mini M1 sales, or it would kill most of the $1999 Mac Studio sales.
Apple's value/price ladder has a few big steps, not many small steps with even smaller steps in-between.
"End of discussion". No, you're just confused. We're talking about a Mac Mini with an M2 Pro chip, not a "Mac Mini Pro." the Studio can definitely be the "Mac Mini Pro", but there isn't a Studio with an M1/M2 Pro chip in it.
From your perspective, why is Apple still selling the Intel powered Mac Mini? They've had plenty of opportunities to discontinue it, yet they haven't. Why? From my perspective, it seems obvious that it is waiting on its replacement. If Apple doesn't plan to release a Mac Mini with an M1/M2 Pro chip, why did they choose to start the Studio at M1 Max instead of M1 Pro?
"And on that note, I really feel like this is all about price -People want a desktop M2 Mac that is on par with Mac Studio but costs less."
A Mac Mini with an M1/M2 Pro wouldn't be as performant as a Mac Studio with an M1 Max though... People do want a cheaper option, but they would be trading a lot of GPU performance to get it.
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the only reason for that big heat sink is for the M1 Max and Ultra. The M1/2 Pro does not produce nearly as much heat and works well in the 14" MBP. The Mini has been able to handle the heat from Intel i5 and i7 chips and we know how hot those get. The mini could easily handle the heat from an M2 Pro.
"If you don't cannibalize yourself, someone else will." - Steve Jobs
Also: the 13" MBA and MBP exist. But yeah, sure, they never pit their own products against each other.
...that's what the article is about?But this happens right now. Or not?
If it would be that critical, Apple would've already released a desktop Mac with Mx Pro... Oh, but look!There is none.
my budget for a mac mini is bang in the middle so unless they bring one out my money stays in the bank, certainly not gonna buy the current one that is over 2 years old
I guess the maxed unbinned Mac Mini M2 Pro will perform similar to the entry level binned Mac Studio M1 Max – without whistling https://www.macrumors.com/2022/07/20/m2-pro-and-m2-max-performance-leap-over-m2/
https://www.macrumors.com/2022/07/20/m2-pro-and-m2-max-performance-leap-over-m2/for non-GPU tasks certainly.I guess the maxed unbinned Mac Mini M2 Pro will perform similar to the entry level binned Mac Studio M1 Max – without whistling
Of course when Apple releases the M2 Pro, they will likely also release the M2 Max and upgrade the Mac Studio at the same time so you will not have an M2 Pro Mini competing with an M1 Max Studio.
The Studio comes with the Max or the Ultra. There is no Studio with the M1 Pro chip, that's why a lot of the comments say there is room in the lineup for a Mini with an Mx Pro chip.
Is that a real question. M1 Mini starts at $699 and the Studio starts at $1999. The mini maxes out a 16gig. The Studio starts at 32gig. Why not a higher end Mini, with a M1 pro, with 32 gig for $1299?
Typical Apple tech dribble to maximize any possible profit. The moment the Macbook 14/16 M1 Pro/Max came out, they could have EASILY offered at least a M1 Pro mini, with a 32gig RAM option at the same time. Living life in a all Apple eco system is a PITA at times.
For Lightroom (I can't speak to Affinity as I don't use it) I think you should be fine with any M1 or M2 chip-based Mac available. Your bigger concern would probably be:
- Maxing out RAM for future-proofing as much as possible
- Getting a 27" or larger 5K monitor so you won't lose the screen real estate & sharpness that you're used to
- Making sure the monitor can be color-calibrated regularly
- Having enough fast connections so you can move your digital assets to your photo archive drives or NAS (external storage is so much cheaper than internal storage from Apple)
For people who want to future-proof a new Mac purchase with more ram and storage (or more GPU cores) than the standard M1 allows/has, but don't need the M1 Max found in the entry level Studio, yes.
Users who don't upgrade/cycle every-other year or even every 3 years that hang on to their tech for 5+ years, are looking for exactly that option/device.
Which is one of the reasons I suspect Apple isn't selling one. They're positive that customers will buy the new hotness right now, either settle for the M1 and buy a new Mac again 3 years from now, or upsell to the Studio for their 5+ year purchase. They don't seem to notice or care that there are plenty of users stubbornly waiting for Apple to sell them what they actually want.
How many users sat and waited for *years* (and even built and used Hackintoshes) until Apple released the "headless iMac" Studio? Waited for *years* until they released the MacBook Pros without the crappy butterfly KB?
Apple is making enough money that they just don't seem to care anymore. Settle for what we'll sell you .. or don't.
Now, I'm someone who thinks that the entry level Studio is damn near perfect for my office, but it's more than I can justify for the home, and the M1 Mini just isn't enough. So, while I'm perfectly happy that Apple released the Studio that feels a lot like my old Centris 650 in some ways, the space where a M1 Pro Mini would go, remains .. empty.
And, again, Tim's too busy swimming in the Olympic-sized pool filled with gold coins to notice, or care.
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If one bumps up the Mini to 16gb and 10gb ethernet, the price gap shrinks to $800. If someone wants a "pro" machine, they'll just get the Studio.
are you really trying to make ~$800 savings sound like no big deal lol
Extra! Extra! Read all about it! Next year's product won't ship with last year's processor!
Yes. If you're really doing pro level work, and thus wanting/needing a Mac Mini "Pro", $800 more (for a lot more, including more ports and 32gb standard memory) is a no-brainer.