Gurman: New iPad Pro Models With M2 Chip and Wireless Charging to Debut in September or October

[cupcakes2000]

M2 iPad Pro
More expensive than the M1 iPad Pro….

Better products, even if similar, cost more across every single industry. It’s not only obvious, its unavoidable.

For example; to photograph a wedding, I may charge 1, 2 or 3 thousand euros (Simplified). The photographs are exactly the same. The package is different.

 

[entropys]

Who really uses iPad Pro's to their full extent? Like... what industry are you in? Why are you using an iPad and not a laptop?

In the field work. Disaster assistance. Its use is unparalleled in that context. Any field work really it is better than a laptop. I see builders and insurance assesors all the time with iPads as well.

 

[stocklen]

Reduced bezels sounds good. For some reason, I'm assuming it's a technical requirement to meet their standards for the display, Apple is the bezel king. It's not normally something I worry about all that much but I did think the bezels on the latest iPad mini were distracting. Somehow they managed to kill most of the border on the series 7 Apple Watch and it really looks so much better.

no, you are wrong there.

There has to be bezels for a handheld device.... you need some part of the edge of the screen to be able to hold or touch without inadvertently interacting with anything.

Imagine the device with edge to edge display or much thinner bezels (they are already very thin on the pros) - how would you hold it exactly? The iPad would be in almost perpetual wiggle mode.

This isnt a laptop its a handheld tablet.

 

[jlc1978]

1, it’s not a mac, so it wont have Finder. It has Files - which is improving as time goes on.

I suspect at some point it will be hard to see the difference.

2, Go buy PCalc, its awesome, cheap and will help out a long serving indie dev. Then you can stop moaning about apples own terrible calculator app not being present.

PCalc is great. I have been using it for a long time.

 

[szw-mapple fan]

Who really uses iPad Pro's to their full extent? Like... what industry are you in? Why are you using an iPad and not a laptop?

For me it's because it's a very modular computing device. It gives me the option to use it flat on a surface as a writing/drawing pad but can also be quickly converted to a semi-laptop with keyboard and trackpad when I need to type a lot. iPad OS is also often simpler to operate and feel more "stable" for most of my tasks on the go compared to on a Mac where I have to deal with a lot of my own digital clutter and windows to get to what I need. There are times when I need my MBP with me to deal with more heavy work, but these days it spends far more time docked than not.

 

[szw-mapple fan]

no, you are wrong there.

There has to be bezels for a handheld device.... you need some part of the edge of the screen to be able to hold or touch without inadvertently interacting with anything.

Imagine the device with edge to edge display or much thinner bezels (they are already very thin on the pros) - how would you hold it exactly? The iPad would be in almost perpetual wiggle mode.

This isnt a laptop its a handheld tablet.

This has been solved since the first iPad mini back in 2012. You can hold it near the edge with your thumb partially or entirely on the screen as you would a thicker bezeled iPad without having it register as a tap. The thumb rejection has always worked pretty well for me for as long as it has been around. The current iPads Pro/Air/mini bezels are already thinner than most people's thumbs and I haven't seen many people complain.

 

[hajime]

Given that it uses M2, is this an inferior, slower version of the current M1 iPad Pro 12.9"?

 

[JippaLippa]

no no no
the ipad mini is too small
the 14 is too big
the 12.9" is too close to the M2 Mba

I can't see that well...
The air was just so crammed.
Also I don't have a TV, and I want to watch films in HDR, therefore I believe the 2022 12,9" iPad Pro will be the perfect choice for me.
Pity, as I loved the purple colour I got for the air...
Oh well...

 

[Boil]

Artists and illustrators will use it all and they don’t do their work on a patio because they want the direct manipulation + Apple Pencil.

If you spend your day creating hand-drawn animations with hundreds of thousands of layers, you will run into the limits of the iPad Pro hardware.

M2 with 24GB RAM should improve performance and layer count in Procreate...?

Given that it uses M2, is this an inferior, slower version of the current M1 iPad Pro 12.9"?

The M2 is the replacement for the M1, so how would it be slower...?

 

[Scipster]

Please let there be an 11" mini-led, with or without the M2!

 

[jongriff]

Notch would probably show up if Apple moves the FaceID camera to top center in landscape orientation...?

I’m with you on moving the camera, makes much more sense. Given the bezels are uniform around the device I can’t see the logic in this leading to a notch though?

 

[grouch]

September 2022 event should be a real banger.

 

[sos47]

they added
- mouse support
- external display support
- stage manager
- an AS which also works in Macs
But it cant run macOS Apps!

So why should we buy an M2 ?
they will tell us we need at least an M3 or Os Version 2024+ to run macOS Apps

 

[cupcakes2000]

they will tell us we need at least an M3 or Os Version 2024+ to run macOS Apps

It’s an iPad. They don’t run macOS apps. They run iPadOS apps.

 

[ArchebaldDiv.]

they added
- mouse support
- external display support
- stage manager
- an AS which also works in Macs
But it cant run macOS Apps!

So why should we buy an M2 ?
they will tell us we need at least an M3 or Os Version 2024+ to run macOS Apps

I have a hunch mac apps are around the corner

 

[GuruZac]

no no no
the ipad mini is too small
the 14 is too big
the 12.9" is too close to the M2 Mba

Just get both. M1 iPad Pro and MacBook Air. 😃 They serve different while sometimes overlapping roles, but they are quite the combo. I paid $2200 for 256GB iPad Pro 12.9 and 16GB of RAM 256GB MacBook Air (student discounts).

 

[allenvanhellen]

M1 gets a weather app. M2 will get a calculator app. Awesome. M9 will get FCP and Logic.

 

[cupcakes2000]

I have a hunch mac apps are around the corner

No way, it would be a UI mess to use almost every Mac app with a touch first device. No way Apple will accept that.

Perhaps there will be an easier path for an iPad optimised version, but they aren't about to let unchanged Mac apps on the iPad.

 

[cupcakes2000]

M1 gets a weather app. M2 will get a calculator app. Awesome. M9 will get FCP and Logic.

Or you can use something like Cubasis and Luma Fusion for now. It's not like options don't exist.

 

[Boil]

I’m with you on moving the camera, makes much more sense. Given the bezels are uniform around the device I can’t see the logic in this leading to a notch though?

For the same reason the 14" & 16" MacBook Pro laptops got the notch, to allow for slimmer bezels...?

But what might Apple do with that "extra space"...?

A menu system like macOS, or some sort of "always-on" notifications/system monitor sections...?

 

[ArchebaldDiv.]

No way, it would be a UI mess to use almost every Mac app with a touch first device. No way Apple will accept that.

Perhaps there will be an easier path for an iPad optimised version, but they aren't about to let unchanged Mac apps on the iPad.

Remember that we already have a hunch of this with StageManager on ExternalDisplay. Thats efectively MacOS Apps...
But I do agree with you in principle.!

It's likely it will be UniversalApps

 

[JippaLippa]

September 2022 event should be a real banger.

Don't they focus exclusively on the iPhone in September?

 

[stocklen]

It’s an iPad. They don’t run macOS apps. They run iPadOS apps.

some people seem to never want to let it go.

iPads are iPads - they run iPadOS.

Macs are Macs - they run MacOS.

MacOS is capable of running iPadOS apps (where allowed by developers), but iPadOS is a touch only interface and therefore the same cannot and will not ever be true in reverse.

If you want to run a MacOS app... then obviously you need to buy a Mac. Dont whine about MacOS apps not magically working on a totally different machine than the one they were designed and built for.


Perhaps in the future the concept of universal iOS apps that run in both iOS, iPadOS, and TVOS ..... will also use the same universal binary to also run in MacOS but given the interface differences this will be a tricky one to solve.

 

[ArchebaldDiv.]

Or you can use something like Cubasis and Luma Fusion for now. It's not like options don't exist.

Both are great

 

[ArchebaldDiv.]

MacOS is capable of running iPadOS apps (where allowed by developers), but iPadOS is a touch only interface and therefore the same cannot and will not ever be true in reverse.

If you want to run a MacOS app... then obviously you need to buy a Mac.

Why? What's obvious about that?

ps. no iPadOS is not a touch only interface, ... people here really need to update their knowledge.... 🤦‍♂️