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Gurman: New MacBook Pro Models to Launch in Early 2023, iMac With M3 Chip Possible Later in Year

I wonder if this will be the first one on the M3..since the mbp is coming out around the same time with the M2s. 3nm makes a lot of sense on an Air-like device.
 
PauloSera said:
1. This idea that Apple simply doesn't have resources to produce modest product updates is laughable at best. They just have no interest in it, especially when there is no cost benefit. A modest update to the iMac costs money to produce, and may not sell a single additional unit than would otherwise sell of the current version. This is Apple's entire focus.
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First of all, no they do not have infinite resources of high skilled experts. You can't grow them on money trees. And second, you don't want to waste them on a stupid unnecessary upgrade, when at the same time they could work at the new 6K iMac or AS Mac Pro. It's not that Apple has no interest in an M2 24" iMac, it's just not their highest priority right now.
PauloSera said:
2. There is no proof that Apple is actually making a large iMac. It has been vapor rumor for years now. And then the Mac Studio and Studio Display were released. With the existence of those products, there is no guarantee that any such thing is still coming. The idea of it is frankly silly. The iMac is a cumbersome all-in-one machine, and for anyone other than the basic consumer who is going to plop it on a desk and never touch it again, it is a hassle to not have the computer disconnected from the display. The 24" consumer iMac we have today is likely the only iMac we'll see again, at least for a long while.
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The ARM transition was also a rumor for many years until Tim Apple announced it at the WWDC 2020. But it was only logical that the Mac would benefit greatly from Apple Silicon and so we knew it was coming for sure. The same is true for a new large iMac, which will sell hundreds of millions of units over the next decade and be the center piece of the Apple product lineup. Apple is the all-in-one Macintosh company, everything else is only an addition to the iMac.
 
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M4 likely to launch Spring 2024. If not happening, then I'll change my prediction and say Automn 2024. I should be right eventually.

These rumors dudes are funny.
 
Adreitz said:
Apple's decisions have been baffling recently. When they released the M2, they should have thrown it into the iMac and Mac Mini immediately. It doesn't make any sense to hold back for six-plus months on an upgrade that requires nearly zero additional engineering work. Apple is too used to thinking "revision n+1 has to be compelling for buyers of revision n to upgrade" rather than "each of our Macs needs to have the newest, fastest, best tech available at the time". If that means they end up doing two revisions in a year, so be it! They need to make their computers compelling for NEW buyers (and those on ancient Mac systems like me).
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Disagree.

Apple is fighting tooth and nail to get any real chip volume and would rather prioritize their best selling computer alone for the M2 (while at the same time continuing to sell some M1 chips that are in lower demand now).

It makes a lot more sense to be able to deliver MBAs without any delays than to have the iMac and Minis also fighting for the same limited supply.

In early 2023, they can launch the M2 Pro/Max MBP (which will take some demand off the M2 MBA) and that may give them the breathing room they need for an M2 Mini and iMac.
 
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Um, sure, I need it for "work." Yeah, that's the ticket.
 
That blogging fool Gurman just debunked his own fake rumor about the Mac Pro.

He should pat himself on the back for claiming Apple would release an update to the MacBooks. Did he figure out all by himself that M2 comes after M1?
 
Rafterman said:
I think they moved away from Intel so they could control their own product development direction. The future is ARM.
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Their own product development is pathetic. Going on year 3 and still can’t produce a MacPro. The iMac, mini, and MacBook Pros are over a year old (mini is 2 years old) with no replacements in sight. So that’s them controlling their own development? Pretty sad.
 
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Hillstones said:
Their own product development is pathetic. Going on year 3 and still can’t produce a MacPro. The iMac, mini, and MacBook Pros are over a year old (mini is 2 years old) with no replacements in sight. So that’s them controlling their own development? Pretty sad.
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They got distracted with Apple Car, Ads, and CSAM.
 
CoolSpot said:
Disagree.

Apple is fighting tooth and nail to get any real chip volume and would rather prioritize their best selling computer alone for the M2 (while at the same time continuing to sell some M1 chips that are in lower demand now).

It makes a lot more sense to be able to deliver MBAs without any delays than to have the iMac and Minis also fighting for the same limited supply.

In early 2023, they can launch the M2 Pro/Max MBP (which will take some demand off the M2 MBA) and that may give them the breathing room they need for an M2 Mini and iMac.
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Sorry, I don't think that makes any sense. A sale of a Mac with an M2 is equivalent to the sale of a different Mac with an M2. Sell fewer MBAs, sell more iMacs. Who cares? At least people who want the iMac or Mac Mini form factor wouldn't have the dilemma of choosing between compromising on their needs vs. buying 18-month-old technology. If Apple is supply-constrained on the M2, there will be a backlog either way. Leaving people hanging by continuing to sell old technology drives them away from Apple.
 
Adreitz said:
Sorry, I don't think that makes any sense. A sale of a Mac with an M2 is equivalent to the sale of a different Mac with an M2. Sell fewer MBAs, sell more iMacs. Who cares? At least people who want the iMac or Mac Mini form factor wouldn't have the dilemma of choosing between compromising on their needs vs. buying 18-month-old technology. If Apple is supply-constrained on the M2, there will be a backlog either way. Leaving people hanging by continuing to sell old technology drives them away from Apple.
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It makes total sense. If they launch a product, they will need a fairly large minimum number of systems built (to stock stores & partners inventory) regardless of how many they will ultimately sell.

1 million MBAs is not the same as 500k MBAs + 500k imacs

I'm currently waiting for new iMacs so I'm very sympathetic, but I'm not surprised that Apple prioritized the Macbook Airs.
 
Amazing Iceman said:
To be able to get about 10 years of usable life out of a computer is unthinkable for Windows PCs.
My 2007 MBP lasted me almost 10 years.
I use a 2018 MBP when working on the road and it still is very powerful. I don’t really need to take my M1 MBP with me, unless I need to do heavy video editing and rendering.
Switching to the Mac was one of the best decisions I made back in 2007.
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Done that by the end of 2000. It just happened. I got my Powerbook G4 to broaden my knowledge of different computer systems and because everything worked much faster and smoother, including web surfing, I just silently switched. Best thing I did.
 
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Hillstones said:
Their own product development is pathetic. Going on year 3 and still can’t produce a MacPro. The iMac, mini, and MacBook Pros are over a year old (mini is 2 years old) with no replacements in sight. So that’s them controlling their own development? Pretty sad.
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14 Watts. My M1 iMac is running at 14W and outperforms an Intel Xeon.
 
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Aries79 said:
With the non pro M1 chip, the M1 iMac has a videocard which is slower (even much slower) than previous generation iMacs with dedicated videocards.
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And yet with encoders and decoders for H.264 and HEVC (10-bit) it always feels responsive like an iPhone. The image signal processor (ISP) developed for the iPhone camera allows for features not even imaginable on a PC. So what do I get for a dedicated GPU, Mac gaming?
 
Whats up with the weird screen sizes? 14 inches is too small and 16 is too big and heavy. Bring back a 15" in the air or pro. I won't buy until that happens.
 
It is highly unlikely that a M3 3nm die shrink chip will be out before 2024 as it takes away manufacturing capacity for higher volume selling A17 Bionic chip destined for the iPhone 15 Pro.
 
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