24" makes sense. 27" seems to have gone the way of the Dodo.
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Gurman: New MacBooks Will Be Announced at WWDC in June
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Not sure why MR didn’t report on it, but in today’s newsletter Mark says new 24 iMac, two new Mac Studios (I assume M3max and M3ultra), and the Mac Pro are all in development.
Re. the 24" iMac, based on the rumors of a "reconfiguration" of the internals, it sounds to me like they tested M2 with the iMac, but cooling was inadequate, so they realized an internal redesign was needed. I have no idea if that's true, but to me that's the only thing that explains 2 years without an iMac update.
The Bloomberg article says these new Macs (iMac, 13” air, 15” air, MBPs, Max Pro, Studio) are coming between WWDC and early 2024. It wouldn’t make sense to relaunch the 13” air with an M2. Seems more likely that Apple will launch the Mac Pro and 15” Air at WWDC and then the M3 iMac and updated 13” Pro / 13” air in the fall.
Spring 2024 will have the M3 Pro / M3 Max / Ultra for the MacBook Pros and updated Studio. M3 Extreme at WWDC 2024 for the Max Pro.
Spring 2024 will have the M3 Pro / M3 Max / Ultra for the MacBook Pros and updated Studio. M3 Extreme at WWDC 2024 for the Max Pro.
Can't say that. The M2 advanced processors (Pro/Max) would be more desirable than a M3 base SoC. The iMacs are not laptops and don't rely on battery life. Eventually you have the same more advanced SoC's as part of M3 SoC's but that sticks it out farther into the future.
Would make sense, Apple has been using a trickle down approach with all of their latest new features.
Also the 2024 Air is rumored to switch to an OLED display, maybe Apple wants to blend that plus massive speed and efficiency improvements together to entice people from the M1 generation to upgrade after four years or so.
One thing I am looking forward to is the possibility that the next iMacs can drive more external displays. Like maybe more than One external display with up to 6K resolution at 60Hz. It would be great if that was at least two 6Ks using the M2 pro.
it is the way it is...imac is not getting Pro/Max SoC
If Apple was thinking to keep the 27"-30" imacs then yes
M2 Max in that little chin with 2 little fans...no way...better keep the entry level SoC in that 24" iMac
-dont get me wrong I would love an M3 Pro/Max into an 27-30" iMac
Way too soon for the M3. We've barely had M2 machines in use.
I'm waiting for the M10. The first invisible Mac. 0nm.
I have never heard that anywhere, and it sounds like absolute nonsense, because the MacBook Air has worse cooling than any iMac by default and it got the M2.
More than likely, apple crunched the numbers and found updating the iMac from M1 to M2 wouldn’t be justified by the sales.
Not the first time Apple has skipped a processor generation on one of their products, and probably won’t be the last.
The iPad series totally skipped from A10 and A10X to A12 and A12X.
You can't put aside the thought that Apple might have chosen the 24" for the immediate future to remove both the 21" and 27" solutions. Yeah we do miss the larger iMacs, but that doesn't mean that most office workers don't find the 24" an issue. Just throwing out another possibility because Apple never explained themselves.
"but it's entirely unclear" would make this sentence more accurate.
100% it won't have 120hz sadly
That said OLED MBA should have it according to rumors
So M3 MBAs will have OLED,120hz, and an increase in price lol
you make a point that wasnt in this discussion
But its sad that Apple removed the most sold imac....and lets remember Apple is one of the most profitable company, so that was really really strange
I wonder the lack of an M2 Ultra and the Mac Studio...show that Apple is still considering to remove the Mac Studio from the line up
What do you think?
The bet would be that "new macbooks" maybe doesn't include new 13" MBA or MBP this time around then, but rather the 15" and maybe that'd be it.
Something a bit uncharacteristic for Apple would be a price-cut on the current 13" M1/M2 MBAs. I would count this as a possibility due to the economic downturn and increased difficulty in trying to sell premium priced laptops.
Developers don't like any sign of a stagnating platform adoption rate so eating some of the margins might be worth it to not suffer long-term. Yeah I know I sound like someone arguing for the same thing in the early 90s.
Something a bit uncharacteristic for Apple would be a price-cut on the current 13" M1/M2 MBAs. I would count this as a possibility due to the economic downturn and increased difficulty in trying to sell premium priced laptops.
Developers don't like any sign of a stagnating platform adoption rate so eating some of the margins might be worth it to not suffer long-term. Yeah I know I sound like someone arguing for the same thing in the early 90s.
Can’t wait for WWDC for all these rumors to be put to a end. With no March spring event, it’s been non-stop rumors.
Processors aside, I hope they allow dual-monitor support on the 15" MBA. The 13" only supports 1 external at a time - which is A) lame and B) brutal. Dual-monis should not be relegated to just the Pro line.
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The M2 arrived at WWDC last year. I wouldn’t be surprised if we witness the announcement of the M3 during WWDC 2023.
An updated 13'' M2 MacBook Air announcement at WWDC makes exactly ZERO sense and not gonna happen. BS report.
If it has M2 it will likely have the same limitations. Two display-controllers on the SoC one of which is reserved for the internal screen wether it's clamshelled or not.
If they serve up an M2 Pro variant (which might be wishful thinking) then yeah, it'll support more.
That WWDC 2022 M2 announcement was 18 months after M1 was announced. Care to guess the odds of achieving M3 at 12 months later at the next WWDC 2023 before even producing a 3NM SOC for iPhones?
Not sure what they are going to call the processor but my bet is it is going to basically be a M2 with an updated manufacturing process. So then yeah, they won’t get additional updates until 2024.
so a "stability" release? that's what he said about iOS 17 a few weeks back and look where that went ...
and not sure why folks here expect the rumored 15 MBA to have a M3 chip? I'd expect Apple to position it "on par" performance with the 13 with simply a larger screen, maybe 2 more GPU cores ...