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All good news for me except Air Tags, was hoping for a slight premium over Tile but not double or triple the price. Might buy one for my wallet to try but forget my keys or Apple TV remote etc. Very excited to see a new Apple TV and new remote. My 2009 iMac is on the fritz but not sure if I’d buy another. I was able to upgrade to a SSD myself but these new Macs are even harder to upgrade and you are forced to buy a new one when one component is outdated or stops working. Seems wasteful to me, I would much rather prefer a lower cost consumer Mac Pro but I get Apple wanting to control the entire experience, including the monitor and sell you a new one in under 8 years.
 
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At the research institute where I work, ultra-wide curved displays with sizes beyond 34" are growing like mushrooms. Some people have two of those, and having four 24" displays connected to one desktop computer is nothing extraordinary. Even the folks in administration use two 24" displays with their computers. I have three displays hooked up to my Trash can Mac Pro, 2 normal displays left and right and one ultra-wide in the middle.

The problem with the iMac design is that it was not made with multiple displays in mind. Yes, you can connect an external display to it, but it will always look and feel out of place. The other problem is: Apple only sells glossy displays. Technically, in public organizations in Germany, you are not even allowed to purchase glossy displays because of ergonomic work place regulations.


it needs out of the box VESA support. i like the thicker idea and make it so that the consumer can upgrade memory or the hard drive.
 
Frankly I wouldn't mind if the iMac went back to it's 2006 days when it was much thicker.

There's really no reason other than aesthetic for an all-in-one desktop to be so thin. The added depth means you could pack everything in there, plus remove the chin, and eliminate the thick bezels. The thermals will be better too.

Think 6K XDR type thick...but floating on a hinged stand.

Totally agree. I'd rather have it thicker with better thermals, performance and expandability. Thankfully now that Ive is gone, Apple is less obsessed with being thinner and thinner lately.
 

Remember when Apple showed everybody else how it should be done?

Let's have a look here. Design. Efficiency. Powerful gpu. Good sound. Large screen. Sounds/seems like an AIO APple should (!) be making...but it comes from HP.

32 inch Screen.
8 Core Intel CPU. Standard.
Nvidia (!) 2080.
32 gigs of Ram.
1TB SSD.
Surround Sound.
Thunderbolt etc.
etc.
etc.

And? £3000. 2k cheaper than the iMac Pro.

And a multi-station keyboard that allows your ipad and iphone to dock without costing you £300.

And wireless charging.

The days of Bondi Blue iMacs and Beige PCs are long gone.

Come on, Apple. Pull your finger out.

Azrael.
 
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And it doesn't run MacOS. Biggest dealbreaker. And the screen has a lower density than a 5K iMac. But you do have a point, a somewhat comparably specced iMac would be US $4,049

Yeah. MacOS. That old chestnut. Window's isn't Windows 95 anymore. It's not as if the latest version of MacOS draped itself in glory.

When you have to pay 6k to get a 'Mac Pro' tower with a 580 gpu.

Or 1k for a stand.

Or £1k to £2k more to get the same or similar specs on an AiO...

Then it's time to re-evaluate that 'relationship.' ie. Ridiculously higher prices are more of a deal breaker than Windows.

At the least, I'll be going dual Mac/PC platform in the near future.

It has to be value. That isn't just software. It has to be hardware too. Apple have a 'captive' 'Mac' market and they know it.

Azrael.
 
Ridiculously higher prices are more of a deal breaker than Windows.

I beg to differ. I cannot stand windows, and all its stupid updating among other things. If I have to pay more to get a computer that runs MacOS, I am more than happy to do it.
 
I beg to differ. I cannot stand windows, and all its stupid updating among other things. If I have to pay more to get a computer that runs MacOS, I am more than happy to do it.

You're entitled to differ.

I can't 'stand' Windows either. But it's far more tolerable than it used to be (that's not a wringing endorsement of it but Apple can't hold their head too high with the recent Mac OS update or their Mac desktops over the last 5 years or so.)

But I won't be held 'hostage' to fortune with bad value hardware either. Two wrongs don't make a right.

When that elasticity was '20%' of Windows. I was fine with that in Job's day. When you have to pay 3-four times more to get a decent Mac tower that you could get in Steve Job's day. It's time to re-evaluate. For me. It's not Mac at 'any' price. Apple doesn't have a blank check with me.

The recent ridiculous examples (see above) tell me that Apple are more about marketing and profits rather than product.

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Yeah, whatever.

We've been hearing about this new iMac for over 5 years now. Still nothing. Obviously it will come at some point, but they can't then turn around and say "We told you so!" as they've got it wrong year after year.

I'd be more interested in a 'pro-sumer' version of the Mac Pro over the iMac. Give us plebs something we can have some fun with that's moderately powerful instead of just a giant MacBook on a stick.
 
Yeah, whatever.

We've been hearing about this new iMac for over 5 years now. Still nothing. Obviously it will come at some point, but they can't then turn around and say "We told you so!" as they've got it wrong year after year.

I'd be more interested in a 'pro-sumer' version of the Mac Pro over the iMac. Give us plebs something we can have some fun with that's moderately powerful instead of just a giant MacBook on a stick.

Same here. Give me that Mac Pro Prosumer at £2500 with a 5700 XT. Give us 'bottom feeders' some hope. :p

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I beg to differ. I cannot stand windows, and all its stupid updating among other things. If I have to pay more to get a computer that runs MacOS, I am more than happy to do it.

Sadly the MacOS update process has gone downhill so far it's not really any better any more.

Right down to copying Windows habit of claiming something will take x minutes to install when x has no relation whatsoever to what it will actually take.
 
Sadly the MacOS update process has gone downhill so far it's not really any better any more.

Right down to copying Windows habit of claiming something will take x minutes to install when x has no relation whatsoever to what it will actually take.
I still find it less obtrusive than Windows. It makes a time machine backup, and when I come back the next morning, it is just as I left it. Windows has gotten better though, and I no longer have daily updates with it. I still detest that MS makes it so hard to disable the built-in ads and telemetry. MacOS, out of the box, is just better in its default state.
 
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