I didn't say they had to allow app to run on Mac as in MBP (today's options). Technically, you can run any iOS app on Mac today barring need for device-specific hardware. But many will not function correctly as the touch UI is required for them to be truly functional. Be we are not talking about running these apps on a Mac. I don't know how Apple enabled running iOS apps on Mac but I would venture to guess they are using a sandboxed springboard (perhaps leveraging Simulator?) for each app. Running a touch first app on MacOS on an iPad is functionally equivalent to running it natively under iPadOS. It would access to device-specific hardware. And it would have access to a touch screen interface.
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You cant run an iOS app on MacOS if the developer hasn't enabled it.
When developers build their apps, they can enable it by basically clicking on a checkbox. The fact that most developers aren't taking advantage of how easy it is tells you that its not worth it to most of them.
Doesn't matter if developers don't want to enable iOS apps on MacOS.
I really cannot tell if you are intentionally misinterpreting what I say to disingenuously argue or I am not being clear.
Let’s try one last time.
No one said that the ability to restrict iOS apps being runnable on macOS would be taken from developers. In fact I quite clearly mentioned how they have the ability decide and posited some reasons why they wouldn’t.
There are really two, maybe three, reasons to restrict
- They have a Mac app they’d rather you buy
- Their app really does not translate macOS (on a Mac)
- They just don’t want to.
- iPadOS / springboard when not docked and all apps work
- When docked offer the user an option
- Stay in iPadOS /springboard and all app would work (you see, it’s still in iPad mode)
- macOS / Mac ui when docked.
None of what I said takes control away from the developer. In the latter option I mention that is what we have on Mac today. It is possible, if not likely, that devs would offer support as it is still running ON AND IPAD with a touch interface and access to the device specific hardware.
But, it is all speculation until we see what if anything apple supports and devs agree to.
Sad reality is that after years of iPadOS developement - macOS, as is, would work much better on a touchscreen that iPadOS does with a keyboard and trackpad. Far from perfect, but good enough. And for extensive, diverse use - keyboard + trackpad always has been and probably always will be (input is visually separated from display) better than touchscreen (although the latter might look more futuristic and has a faster learning curve - elderly, kids, people who don't care about productivity).
3, due to cost, is the reason why we hardly have any iOS apps on MacOS.
Can you imagine the something-gate outrage over the requirement of purchasing a keyboard and mouse to use MacOS. Imagine being somewhere with your iPad and having to go get your keyboard a mouse just to do something simple in MacOS. iPhone users couldn’t handle simply swiping down to see their battery percentage, and you think they would accept this “good enough” situation?
The next question is how well MacOS would actually run on the iPads as we have them, as opposed a future MacTablet. Even the MacBook Air has a vents and keyboard opening to passively vent heat while the iPad has no vents and a big heat-generating screen.
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Current M2 Macbook air does not have fans. Also there is no passive cooling via the keyboard (there no air flow through the keyboard and around the mainboard). It cools itself in the same way as iPad - through the chassis.
It is true, however, that there no display on top.
The MacBook Air has vents in the hinge. It uses them, the bottom of the chassis, and also heat does escape through keyboard openings. Combined with the screen heat, people who want to do real work on the iPad will be disappointed by how quickly it throttles. Apple knows an inferior experience will lead to a bunch of something-gate hashtags which is why they are in no rush to put MacOS on the current iPads.
We probably wont see it until there is a MacPad with active cooling.
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Let’s be honest here…sure the aluminum will be nice, but I’ll say what we’re all thinking - no dynamic island, no buy!
OK... I would believe the airflow through the speaker will be rather low, right?
Besides, iPad also has speakers. Four of them. Double the airflow?
The speakers are located at the sides of the hinge, those vents are located towards the center of the hinge.
It’s not *through* the speakers, the vents and the speakers are just located in the same region of the machine
You're right, I always thought that in the new Air design they were completely "sealed" like iOS devices.
Most people think it’s sealed because it’s fanless. My point was that MacOS will probably run like a fanless Intel Air instead of an M2 MacBook Air.
Funny, but I was JUST thinking about this yesterday LOL As it’s a very wide angle camera, it covers much of the space in front of the screen. I actually wouldn’t mind if they brought the gestures from the Vision Pro such that you hold up your hand to see the circle “pointer” and then pinch to tap on something or pinch and wave to scroll
I think you’ve got a FINE idea there!There will be an Octoberish iPad announcement if…
Apple announces the M3 Macs and M3 iPad Pros at the same time
or
Apple upgrades the iPad Pros to M3 before it upgrades the Macs to M3.
or
Apple only upgrades the base and Air.
IMO, the first option is the most likely so watch for Mac event rumors.
Apple announces the M3 Macs and M3 iPad Pros at the same time
or
Apple upgrades the iPad Pros to M3 before it upgrades the Macs to M3.
or
Apple only upgrades the base and Air.
IMO, the first option is the most likely so watch for Mac event rumors.
Completely disagree but each to their own.
It's dumb to compare the iPhone to an iPad. Adding a keyboard to the phone makes zero sense because of the size. Adding a keyboard to the iPad is brilliant and especially useful for those of us you use the touch screen but want laptop functionality. So the iPad is IT until Apple offers an actual laptop with a touchscreen.
It can be annoying when an app is portrait mode only, but you can just turn the whole thing 90 degrees including the keyboard.
Not necessary. A much simpler and more stable method is to undock the iPad, turn it the “tall way” and then rest the bottom edge on the ”lip” just below the spacebar. Lean it on the back panel (adjust the hinge to an angle of your liking) and you’ll have a workable, if kludgy way to use the IPP in “portrait orientation”.
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My M1Pro 11 with magic keyboard has been solid; through daily use, overseas travel, airplane usage, cruise ship usage ….
Even better once I finally figured out the ESC* key can be CMD-Period and the Delete key function (pulls characters to delete them) can be CTRL-D.
The trackpad is just the right size in my opinion. I even got a regular magic keyboard and trackpad to use with the iPad. I got one of those magnetic stands and using the iPad in portrait format is pretty darn cool.
I haven’t used my MacBook 12-2016 in about 3 years now lol
* I didn’t like the re-map option. We’ll see who reads this down to here vs auto-replying to the second sentence … and reveals they haven’t read the whole thing
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Even better once I finally figured out the ESC* key can be CMD-Period and the Delete key function (pulls characters to delete them) can be CTRL-D.
The trackpad is just the right size in my opinion. I even got a regular magic keyboard and trackpad to use with the iPad. I got one of those magnetic stands and using the iPad in portrait format is pretty darn cool.
I haven’t used my MacBook 12-2016 in about 3 years now lol
* I didn’t like the re-map option. We’ll see who reads this down to here vs auto-replying to the second sentence … and reveals they haven’t read the whole thing
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