Gurman: WWDC 2018 to Have Software Focus, New Macs, iPad Pros, and Larger-Screen Apple Watches Coming Later

[kazmac]

Software only? Makes sense, but it would be nice to have some kind of Mac announcement too.

 

[wigby]

No, the delay is actually due to Apple this year.

The delays are always due to Apple because they are making the choice to go with new or old Intel chips. But

All of Apple's products are already on a two year cycle, if you consider the cycle to be: Announce -> Delay Delivery -> Deliver -> Bug Fix Delays -> Working Correctly. All I am asking for is for Apple to admit it.

In the Jobs days it was Deliver -> Mostly Minor Bug Fixes -> Working Correctly.

I don't see any benefit with the current mode of announcing products that are not ready just to grab the keynote headlines or to create a bunch of interviews for incredible products that can't be delivered.

It's more of an industry trend than just Apple but I agree it is problematic. I don't care if Apple admits to anything but I do want them to address the problem since they are considered a luxury brand and so their customers shouldn't have to pay for their R&D and mistakes. iOS 12 is step in that direction. They seem to be "admitting" to past bugs and slowing down the feature release cycle to address those bugs.

 

[geromi912]

Having a 90-120 minute keynote that features some new hardware releases doesn't take anything away from the entire weeks worth of software development conferences and workshops. No need get defensive about possible hardware announcements stealing a little thunder. Most everything AFTER the SHORT keynote is all about you.
Jeeze, software guys are defensive.

The sad thing is BOTH hardware and software of Apple is now a mess

 

[ThisBougieLife]

I still don't see how they're going to do 90-120 minutes on "bug fixes". There has to be more than that.

If they did introduce iOS apps for Mac, that could take up some time and be something worthwhile.

 

[laz232]

First point, he said the mac mini is going to be an important part of the lineup moving forward... It just hasn't been released yet.

Second point he is talking about merging the touchscreen from iPads and Macs.

Third point... They released the iMac Pro last year and are still working on the Mac Pro.

Fourth point.. He says they have stuff in the pipeline that isn't ready yet, I take this to mean glasses, but I could be way off.

How are you not able to use current Apple products for work?

I will give you the battery and keyboard problems were/are shady.

Id like to see a more reliable source than what you referenced for Apple being able to read iMessages and such.

Your last point about law enforcement is nonsensical. You cut and pasted bits and pieces to fit your narrative. Yes, they will provide them what they can when warrants are provided. They will not just go willy nilly unlocking phones so law enforcement can get in (and they don't have the ability to).

Were reaching/have reached a peak with this stuff. We are not going to get an earth shattering product like the iPhone every couple of years. I would argue that the watch is pretty earth shattering on its own and they seem to be absolutely everywhere. At this point it is all refinements, which I am perfectly happy with. I just want products that work well together and are easy to use.
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I don't think software guys are being defensive about it. They are just pointing out that this is a software event so if new hardware is not revealed it is not a surprise.

Last year we got new hardware at the keynote and in typical macrumors fashion, everyone bitched and moaned about what was released anyway.

The Mac Mini is clearly not important because they have let it languish for years - the only changes have made, made it less useful for anyone...

Mac Pro was too little too late (except for a very narrow range of Pros) and there is still no replacement - that alone shows they don't care about the Pro market - and that's ok, but be honest so that pros can plan to migrate over (especially after the disaster that was Final Cut X).

They dropped their (semi) pro Aperture, so that don't care about that pro market.

The Macbook Pro focus on thinness and a touchbar over battery life and ports. The latter two are important aspects for the engineeres and even the business people in the companies I work with (requiring a bag of dongles is a step backwards). I need a laptop for my work, but the step from a 2013 to a 2017 rMBP is hardly compelling as they are severely compromised in terms of their choice of CPU whilst they've increased the price by a significant factor. I can afford any laptop - but I don't like feeling like TC is taking me for a ride...

I won't go into the law enforcement aspect, but I have it on good authority that there are a lot of more recent convenient "mistakes" (dropping number of rounds for hashing etc) and the push to iCloud (over local backups) which is most definitely not secure (by design).

People bitched and moaned because there releases are no longer compelling. The 2011 MBA and 2012/2013 rMBP releases were fantastic - good machines with good value for money. That has been lacking for years now and the new releases are all severely compromised (Macbook One - with ONE USB port that also is needed to charge the anemic machine. Instead we get new programming languages (Swift), some new iTunes integration, music services, TV shows and services, iPad "Pros", Pencils that are arbitrarily limited to iPad Pros for market reasons - Apple knows how to follow the money, but TC is lying when he says he cares about the Pro market, because I have seen no indication of that since 2013...

 

[Askinas]

Software only? Makes sense, but it would be nice to have some kind of Mac announcement too.

Yep WWDC is about software.

 

[sdf]

…so when you get 5 different types of notifications you can see an icon for each type and tap on it to see all of that type of notification.

Didn't it used to be more like this, where notifications were sorted by type instead of time? I really want mine to remain sorted by time.

 

[nia820]

I was really hoping for an iPad with face ID this June . But I guess it ain't happening.

 

[Appleaker]

The delays are always due to Apple because they are making the choice to go with new or old Intel chips. But

It's more of an industry trend than just Apple but I agree it is problematic. I don't care if Apple admits to anything but I do want them to address the problem since they are considered a luxury brand and so their customers shouldn't have to pay for their R&D and mistakes. iOS 12 is step in that direction. They seem to be "admitting" to past bugs and slowing down the feature release cycle to address those bugs.

Not really, usually they will only refresh once Intel has released the latest CPUs. However that was not the cause for delays for the previous 2 refreshes, and it isn’t the reason this year.

 

[scouser75]

Didn't it used to be more like this, where notifications were sorted by type instead of time? I really want mine to remain sorted by time.

Yes. Previously you could sort by type. But as Apple knows best, they thought we didn't want this so removed it.

As for date order - isn't that how it is now? Date and time order?

 

[wigby]

Not really, usually they will only refresh once Intel has released the latest CPUs. However that was not the cause for delays for the previous 2 refreshes, and it isn’t the reason this year.

Refreshing the CPU is just one of many possibilities. Apple can choose to change pricing, add RAM, ports or completely redesign their Macs around the same old CPU. They usually do not. Apple can blame Intel all they want, but they have trained their own customers to ignore the horsepower under the hood and evaluate Apple products solely on the user experience. Intel might have let everyone down but the fault always lies at Apple's feet.

 

[MandiMac]

Hey, maybe we see some updates to Time Machine to take full advantage of APFS?

 

[TailsToo]

I'm perfectly happy paying more for macOS, Apple's support and premium build. Currently considering a 27" iMac and I even when compared to DIY builds the difference in price is negligible. I don't know where you got the 30-40%, unless you're referring to the TB MBPs in which case you're right, I'm not willing to pay that premium for a feature that doesn't seem that much useful.

Sadly, yes, I am looking at the TB MBP - that TouchBar adds too much to the cost while adding little to the value.

 

[KPOM]

It's out like 2 months or so.
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https://newsroom.intel.com/wp-conte...8th-gen-intel-core-h-series-product-brief.pdf

11th April 2018.

Apple historically waits a few months before using the new Intel chips.

 

[44267547]

AirPods were released 3 months after their announcement.

This is actually false. The AirPods were announced during fall 2016 and slated for An October release, which was one month after the Keynote. Then, they were initially delayed without reason why and then eventually released December 13, 2016, Which Only in theory was two months after the fact.