pseudobrit said:
And that's why she won't. And if she doesn't see it as a date, she won't think of you as boyfriend material. You nearly totally locked yourself into the friend zone with that line.
You took the easy way out by not putting any pressure on her. You need to get her to a point where she has to make a yes or no call on dating you. You can't ease into this or it will go wrong.
At the very least, she seemed uncomfortable with your proposition. If you were bold this may not have been the case, but you were timid and half-assed it, so now she doesn't know what to think.
You need to suck it up, tuck in your pride and put yourself on the line.
Ever hear the story about the guy with two black eyes? A woman in a bar asks him where he got two shiners and he tells her "every time I see an attractive woman I ask her if she wants to go to bed with me", to which the woman replys, "Wow, you must get punched in the face a lot." His retort: "Yes, but I get laid a lot too."
Uhh, they're in high school, right? I think you guys are projecting adult relationship issues into a situation where they don't apply. They're going to be together in classes for a while together. That's not a situation where making it or breaking it is conducive. And they've already been friends for a while, so if he's in the "Friend Zone", then he's already there. Also, he doesn't know how she feels about him. If he had a better idea, then he could weigh the options, and possibly go bold. But he doesn't know, so he can play the rogue-ish friend and feel it out. And, at least he acted, and secured valentines with her. That's better than agonising over a decision, and that time passing by. Hell, someone else could have asked her.
And giving advice, on how to act, to a minor, based on how some man-slut would operate in a bar...
Anyways,
CoMpX, they do have a point. There's a time for boldness, and when it comes, you have to step up to the plate. Just don't be a whiny fool with your heart on your sleeve, asking her questions. Be bold with actions. Start with some friendly physical touching, like touching the shoulder when saying hi. Move to more familiar touching, like if you're walking somewhere, don't just say "this way", but guide her with your arm. Or when you're sitting and talking, move in a little closer than usual. And if you're laughing at a joke, pat her leg.
The whole point isn't to ask her what she wants, but to be a man, and pursue her in a way that's non-threatening, but assured and stimulating. If she's only in the frame of mind that you're a friend, then she'll see it as very friendly contact, and might seem uncomfortable. But, if she warms to your touch, then keep stepping it up a notch, slowly. Remember, you don't have to be kissing in 5 minutes, but 2 hours will do
