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I don't think MR should be prosecuted - however, I don't think your parallel to news media sharing violent acts is valid (even though what news media does is severely problematic). Sharing illegally (or imo unethically) obtained documents is not okay - it gives a market to the criminals and bad seed attention seekers.
I respectfully disagree. The market exists for these criminals with or without the rumor sites.

Let’s say MR took your position. Not only did they not report on the leak, but even tried to police the forums to erase any mention of it. What would change? Would this group and future hackers go “no point in stealing confidential information ever again, there’s just no market for it!” No way. Even if all the Apple sites banded together to do the same, it would barely make a dent.

So long as anyone has information they want to keep private, there will be an incentive for someone to try and steal that information and use the threat of sharing it as a means of ransom. It’s shameful, but human nature and by no way novel to the internet.

I could agree that MR should probably do a bit more to preface the reporting they do that’s a result of known illegal acts. Maybe even have the article collapsed by default with a vague headline that makes the illegal nature clear. Sadly, that might even drive higher clicks. But it would allow those among us that don’t wish to play any part whatsoever in the hackers efforts to easily skip it. That does present complications though: do they ever reference the information learned in any other article? Where do they draw the line regarding the legality of their rumor sources?

Anyway, clearly it’s a complex subject. I appreciate hearing your views on it.
 
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This is crazy. Apple is involved and things get sorted out. When its normal ransomware we don't get it sorted so "quickly"

Wish all scammers would be caught :)
I mean they stole from the world richest company. Not smart.
 
What if MacBook Pros had a punch hole notch next year? If iPhones are rumored to have punch hole cameras, they may add it on Macs.
 
TheYayAreaLiving has thankfully already linked the first clip from a secondary source. 5 hours ago it appeared on Youtube in Russia.


Russian way of bitcoin promoted presentation (incl. REvil, dated Dec31):
note: RIA Novosti is funded in whole or in part by the government of Russia
 
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I hope is true and that we can trust the Russian government (like this guys are not going to work for the gov any time soon)

They’ve been working for or at least with the tacit approval of the government all along.

As I said above, they either got greedy or the FSB decided to throw them overboard.
 
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What does Putin have to do with it? (I don't think much of any populist).

We are not in cinema here!
One should never combine cine fantasy with a claim to reality.

It's amazing how many perceived background assumptions most people have.

Putin has everything to do with it. Don’t wear rose colored glasses. The man rules the FSB. Remember: he worked for them when they had another, much more sinister, name: the KGB.
 
How the hell did you manage to bring your Russophobic crap into a macrumors forum? Russia bad again, as in always, huh? Name one, I mean, ONE single positive article about Putin/Russia in the Western press. And you just keep on devouring and regurgitating those State Dept talking points like you have any clue what you're talking about. Installing a large mirror next to your crapper might help.
 
How the hell did you manage to bring your Russophobic crap into a macrumors forum? Russia bad again, as in always, huh? Name one, I mean, ONE single positive article about Putin/Russia in the Western press. And you just keep on devouring and regurgitating those State Dept talking points like you have any clue what you're talking about. Installing a large mirror next to your crapper might help.

LOL. Are you a writer for RT? There’s a really good reason there’s not much positive press for Putin in the Western press. He’s a bully. The US and NATO are not the ones with divisions poised to invade the Ukraine.

Now, the Russian people…I have no problem with.
 
Putin has everything to do with it. Don’t wear rose colored glasses. The man rules the FSB. Remember: he worked for them when they had another, much more sinister, name: the KGB.

In October 2021, several governments launched a combined effort to take REvil offline.
Here Putin only cooperated and executed.
You should at least read the article (which is quite poorly prepared) carefully....

Don't worry, I too think that Putin (much like Donald T who has hijacked an entire party) has an incredible number of supporters in his country, and yet he is always a bit suspicious to me just because of his mafia form of organization (and his professional past)
 
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Great news, like arresting a large crime organization.

No large crime org gets arrested in Russia. The connections and permissions run straight to the top.

The arrest videos show a few badly dressed people in a cheap apartment. The real beneficiaries live like kings and the money from ransomware is laundered through one of the most expensive buildings in Moscow.

 
No large crime org gets arrested in Russia. The connections and permissions run straight to the top.

The arrest videos show a few badly dressed people in a cheap apartment. The real beneficiaries live like kings and the money from ransomware is laundered through one of the most expensive buildings in Moscow.


I agree with you.
This is the case all over the world. It is bad and not a specifically Russian problem. But some American readers feel comfortable pointing at evil Russia. That may seem like misplaced smugness.

725 5th Ave. New York is also an interesting address. There are enough posts about that in the free world.
And certainly in Russia (don't worry: not a free or peace-loving country for me) school knowledge. This is sad, so people are divided with black and white thinking until they can no longer breathe.

The Russian medial prep clip I posted above gives a hint how much Bitcoin can be connected to this as well. And Bitcoin is loved by all gamblers around the world.
 
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I agree with you.
That is the case all over the world. It's bad and is not a specifically Russian topic. But some American readers feel comfortable pointing to evil Russia. This may appear to be undue complacency.
725 5th Ave, New York is also an interesting address. There are enough posts about it in the free world.
And certainly in Russia (don't worry: not a free or peace-loving country for me) school knowledge. This is sad, so people are divided with black and white thinking until they can no longer breathe.

Yes, don't blame normal Russians. This type of bad image is due to oligarchs and tech bros colluding together all over the world. Many of these schemes and money laundering techniques come straight out of California's wealthy libertarian class that has befriended dictators and helped mafias all over the world. Crime groups in Russia and elsewhere have simply adopted what has been given to them - social media for misinformation, crypto for pump n dump markets, cyber theft and laundering. All these are coming from the Silicon Valley rightwing cartel.
 
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Yes, don't blame normal Russians. This type of bad image is due to oligarchs and tech bros colluding together all over the world. Many of these schemes and money laundering techniques come straight out of California's wealthy libertarian class that has befriended dictators and helped mafias all over the world. Crime groups in Russia and elsewhere have simply adopted what has been given to them - social media for misinformation, crypto for pump n dump markets, cyber theft and laundering. All these are coming from the Silicon Valley rightwing cartel.

“Silicon Valley rightwing cartel”? LOL. And I don’t blame normal Russians. But Putin is leading a thug regime. And you are correct that Silicon Valley (made up mostly of left wing neo-Marxists and Marxist fellow travelers) is an enabler.
 
“Silicon Valley rightwing cartel”? LOL. And I don’t blame normal Russians. But Putin is leading a thug regime. And you are correct that Silicon Valley (made up mostly of left wing neo-Marxists and Marxist fellow travelers) is an enabler.

Incorrect. Silicon Valley on the whole has never leaned what most people would call 'Left'. What Americans call 'Left' is considered centrist everywhere else in the world.

There is a very strong libertarian streak in Silicon Valley and that has shifted to supporting the far right in recent years due to the influence of VC firms like a16z and people like Peter Thiel. They have all turned into bandits and robber barons thanks to the fact that the US government has turned a blind eye to wealthy fraudsters for a decade and when frauds do get penalised it is a fine that they laugh at.

These rightwing tech thugs have indirectly supported every authoritarian rise in the world, from giving crime tools to Russia to helping Cambridge Analytica and to partnering up with dictators like Bukele of El Salvador.
 
Incorrect. Silicon Valley on the whole has never leaned what most people would call 'Left'. What Americans call 'Left' is considered centrist everywhere else in the world.

There is a very strong libertarian streak in Silicon Valley and that has shifted to supporting the far right in recent years due to the influence of VC firms like a16z and people like Peter Thiel. They have all turned into bandits and robber barons thanks to the fact that the US government has turned a blind eye to wealthy fraudsters for a decade and when frauds do get penalised it is a fine that they laugh at.

These rightwing tech thugs have indirectly supported every authoritarian rise in the world, from giving crime tools to Russia to helping Cambridge Analytica and to partnering up with dictators like Bukele of El Salvador.

Thank you for the political lesson on a country you clearly know nothing about.
 
Thank you for the political lesson on a country you clearly know nothing about.

Nobody insulted you, so don't insult people. I grew up on both sides of the pond.

If you think Silicon Valley, San Francisco and Nancy Pelosi are truly leftwing then you haven't seen the state of San Francisco. It's a parasitic libertarian **** hole which has priced young people out of an affordable lifestyle, where homelessness is rampant and stores get raided daily by robbers.

The tech industry is well known for busting unions, not paying taxes, lying about how much they care about the environment. There's not one classic leftwing position they truly push for.
 
@gwhizkids @metapunk2077fail

Dividing a society is always easy. Mankind is genetically predisposed to this.
Societies are prone to. Wise leaders try to close rifts, because tearing a society apart leads to wasted energy or suffocation deaths.

Whether left or right, I think this defocusing tool serves to distract those who are really cashing in. Why do you both participate in dividing?
 
Authorities have claimed that REvil is now essentially shut down. Given what you've read, do you expect that ransomware attacks will continue exactly as before?

Yes, especially under the radar malware attacks against businesses and individuals who aren't covered by the media.
 
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