I am a bit surprised we have not yet seen reference to Hitler, PowerBook G5 and snappier Safari. But then I just did.
Rocketman
Sorry, it was too easy!
I am a bit surprised we have not yet seen reference to Hitler, PowerBook G5 and snappier Safari. But then I just did.
Rocketman
App developers and Apple collect the information as part of doing business with consumers so I would expect them to have it.
The FBI does no business with me so they should not have this information.
Winning Statement of Hyperbole Bowl 2012.
Geez. You really have zero comprehension of what it's like to live in a totalitarian state like N. Korea. I have many disagreements with the "in the name of security" rationale being allowed to weaken Constitutional Rights here in the U.S., but, there is zero comparison between the diabolic N. Korean dictatorship and any western-style government.
And the fact here is, almost every post in this thread is knee jerk. All we know is that the FBI had the information. We don't know whether they obtained it actively, though a direct request, or if it was compiled from evidence seized though the years. We also have no information to indicate they intended to do anything extracurricular with it.
I don't think that the fact it was a Dell computer is relevant to the issue at hand. It was a Java vulnerability that was exploited and if I had to guess, I would say that the FBI agent was specifically targeted in order to mine information from him. If he were using a Mac with an un-patched and active Java environment, he would have been just as susceptible.
Checking to see if you are on the list is pointless. It is a list of 1m items out of 12m collected in a single file associated with a single device.
That is a totally unproven assumption.
When we signed away our freedom under the patriot act, we gave away our rights and protection under the Constitution.
The fear of the few outweighed the rights of the many.
um why are you trying to pretend that you dont know that the govt os watching everything everyone does..?
Can you buy an Apple laptop without a built in microphone and camera?
How easy is it to buy an Apple laptop and then remove the built in microphone and camera yourself?
I'm unsure about buying practices when it comes to the FBI, but the DOD isn't buying Apple laptops for those reasons.
Any built in microphone or camera should be considered hot and a security threat.
It doesn't take much to physically disable these two devices.![]()
Laugh as much as you like, you've already lost so many civil liberties since 2000. What next? Just keep believing that they need this info to keep YOU safe. Baaaaaa![]()
Hence the iron fist silk glove joke. We all know the West is slightly better than North Korea, but then again it seems we only know what these totalitarian countries are like through Western propaganda and media. The fact of the matter is the US and the UK have come to be police states in the last 10-15 years. Time you took those blinkers off.......another sheeple that thinks he's free![]()
Why the hell does the FBI need that information? And why was the damn laptop not encrypted?
Precisely. Which is why I used the words "guess" and "I think" in my comments. Thus alluding to fact that we don't have all the facts.
I don't think that the fact it was a Dell computer is relevant to the issue at hand. It was a Java vulnerability that was exploited and if I had to guess, I would say that the FBI agent was specifically targeted in order to mine information from him. If he were using a Mac with an un-patched and active Java environment, he would have been just as susceptible.
Do you have any idea what freedom actually is? It doesn't have anything to do with whether your movements are captured on CCTV, or your private details are held by the government, it relates to little things (probably unimportant to you...) like being able to marry whomever you choose, regardless of their race, gender, or religion. Or maybe the fact that you can protest against the government, start your own political party, stand for office, apply for any job, practice any religion without fear of persecution, live wherever you want, start your own business, travel abroad, etc etc. In fact, living in the UK all you have to do is agree to abide by the laws of the country, and if you do that then you can live your life however you choose.
But hey, what does that matter? You can sit behind your keyboard and compare our country to living in North Korea, and use phrases like 'Western Propaganda', 'police state' or 'sheeple', so obviously you know best.
Indeed
Just two strips of duct tape is all one needs if they are truly paranoid
It doesn't take much to physically disable these two devices.![]()
Oh wait! Someone dressed in black is knocking at my door…
Ooh, there is a nice man wearing a black suit at my door. I will go let him in.
Y'see, you say that, but it probably won't actually happen. The government doesn't care too much about some guy mouthing off on the Internet. They're too busy providing public schools, roads, public transit, safe food and water, and other public services and infrastructure.A black SUV with tinted windows just parked across the street… I have to go.