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Hackers Threaten to Release Reddit Data Unless API Changes Are Rolled Back
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Usually don't like to support hackers but good on them. Reddit deserves everything they get. Spez has done an amazing job over the last month or so! My Reddit mobile usage has dropped to zero as I used Apollo. Did try the official app but I don't like it and while I still do visit it on desktop I don't spend as much as I used to on it.
I'm thinking about deleting my account for good. Been on Reddit for about 11-12 years.
I'm thinking about deleting my account for good. Been on Reddit for about 11-12 years.
Password managers exist. I have no idea what my Apple account password is, or my MR one, my Reddit, Amazon, Discord, etc. the only password I know is the password to unlock my PW manager (Bitwarden)
If you are so tone deaf you released what amounts to an internal statement that taunts the user base, stupid enough to think that won’t get out, and forgetful enough to lose sight of wallsteeetbets, you’re probably also surprised to be the victim of a tech attack perpetuated by a small number of extremely technical people that use the service.
Those of us with even a gram of common sense aren’t surprised to see the latest development - and understand the series of stupid decisions that got them here.
U/spez/ on the other hand feels like a blameless victim and can’t stop DIGGing 🥁 bigger holes.
Those of us with even a gram of common sense aren’t surprised to see the latest development - and understand the series of stupid decisions that got them here.
U/spez/ on the other hand feels like a blameless victim and can’t stop DIGGing 🥁 bigger holes.
Password manager? With one, it’s really trivial to use 100 character passwords or whatever length you prefer or the service requires / limits you to.
I’d honestly recommend one to anyone with even a passing concern about the security of their accounts. Most people’s passwords, from my experience as a penetration tester, aren’t all that hard to crack with a good rig and an understanding of the person’s natural language. You can then set up rules in hashcat and other tools to swap in the most common things like 3's for e, etc.
To be fair though, that's in a corporate environment with forced password rotations, so people use worse and worse passwords as they have to create new ones so often. Most commonly it's a pattern they begin to use such as (not an actual common pattern) special character, word with numbers mixed, special characters (e.g. !Spr1ngF0rw4rd?)
Don't think Reddit CEO will do anything. Will be interesting to see how all these Reddit protests end.
Blackmail's terrible.
That said, it's uncanny how this mimics Reddit's approach to the API pricing changes. There was an announcement two months back, but details weren't revealed until much later. By then not much time was left to implement the changes, and the pricing did not promote cooperation.
It's sad that you don't even realize that you are completely missing the point, do you? Let me summarize it for you.
- The ****ing CEO lied about the Apollo developer trying to blackmail them
- The company told the developers (and Apollo specifically) that no changes will be made in 2023
- Then the company told them that changes is coming, in April, but did not provide details
- Then at the end of May, the company told the developers that the changes will be implemented on July 1.
- And the charges are crazy expensive - it can be seen that the company's main purpose is to kill off popular 3rd party apps.
And note that using the APIs actually results in *LESS* of a load than pulling down the entire webpage, because you are only pulling the elements you want - of course, this presumes the APIs are available.
Also, if you even mention how they won't be charged until after August, you will be mocked so loudly that they will hear it at the ends of the earth.
At minimum, go educate yourself:
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This article is a great litmus test for whether one is a "two wrongs make a right" type of person or not
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I do not think reddit will be that worried over the data hack. They would have already assessed it's worth and if anything, even if the data does get released, what are others going to do with it? because if the hackers release the data on the darkweb, due to it being stolen data, anyone found accessing it will be in violation of the law due to handling stolen property. Whilst law enforcement will be going after the hackers, reddit can go after anyone that accesses and exposes the stolen data.
They weren't profitable before, and chasing off your 5-10% of users on third party apps likely won't make much of a difference.
I can agree with you that Reddit takes a lot of money to run, and I believe the problem is that they never had a sustainable business model to begin with, and banning third party apps was probably a desperate attempt to clean up their account books in preparation for an IPO. With or without those users, they still wouldn't have a profit to show for it.
I don't wish them ill, but if their IPO were to be unsuccessful and they conveniently happen to run out of investor funding, I wouldn't shed a tear.
You reap what you sow.
People say the same thing about Twitter and Facebook and Instagram.
But here's the thing:
No two feeds are the same.
Every user's feed is unique, created based on who/what they follow and which posts they like and share. The algorithm takes care of the rest.
If your feed is a cesspool, that's actually more a reflection of you rather than it is of the algorithm or the company behind it.
Rather than just blame the algorithm which is more or less a mirror of your interests, it may be useful to meditate on why the algorithm mirrors back what you don't like to see. What are you feeding it?
**** Spez and **** hackers.
AITA? This is one where everyone's the *******
AITA? This is one where everyone's the *******
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If Reddit will win this - other companies might follow it reducing API by f u prices and just 30 days to adapt (when App Store or Google Play have protection for sudden changing app price if someone paid for I.e yearly subscription). So in this case Apollo would pay lots of money to refund changes and ask for new subscriptions or would pay difference by themselves = dead app
Edit: Some other companies have given 60-90 days to adapt instead and were open to negotiation
While I understand Reddit is a private enterprise, the real value is in content that Users make, so promote it, not punish it! Anyone that doesn't understand this shouldn't be anywhere near it.
There's no chance you use a 3rd party tool to access MacRumors that might be removed is there?
Is that the "real value" though? Real value to who? There's no value to the business if they can't monetise it. You're better of with 20% less users if the site costs less to run and they actually make you money. There's only so much content you can host without making a profit until the idea becomes silly - unless you want to run a Wikipedia like donation run project (which for a resource like Reddit might actually be better)
Never paid a penny for Apollo, so what are you talking about? Reddit should just integrate it and make a deal with the developer because that would ultimately make the experience better for everyone and promote top tier users that care about the community. Because the community is the ultimate real value here.
I never said you can't monetise it but you should do it sensibly, with the ultimate goal to grow your community and make their experience better. Just look at Flickr.