When you say perspective you really should say opinion. And there are not that many different ones because if people disagree with one they will work to be sure others don't see it. So in the end you still only get one opinion and it is just as likely to be a bad one.
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Hackers Threaten to Release Reddit Data Unless API Changes Are Rolled Back
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Yeah wasn't there that study specifically on teenage girls and how social media harms them? I couldn't stand FB and left it back in 2016 as it became a political echo chamber for people I knew - and I could tell the platform intentionally promoted divisive and upsetting posts for clicks.
I don't support hacking but a lot of companies I know would rather hire incompetent IT and save $ instead of protect their customer's data. There's really no punishment to getting hacked (aka leaking customer data) so why invest in IT security? Companies need to be held to a higher standard here.
Customers make the company, that's why it is their data being sold. People posting on reddit made reddit what it is. When the company makes a decision that inconveniences a chunk of some of its more involved members and moderators (who spent the last 5+ years making reddit what it is), that's why people are frowning at this. I'm shocked at the number of uninformed posters commenting and the number of those supporting the Reddit CEO and his actions here.
I guess that is why I usually avoid the news threads here.
u might have a valid point here...didn't have much a desire to research into it but this https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=36294850 thread might have the most pertinent info. I don't think there's any dispute that his reddit username definitely a moderator for that sub, but as many point out in that ycomb thread, this was a time when u could apparently add any user to a given subreddit's mod list so long as u had the permissions on that sub (could be wrong on the logistics of this, but if anyone is interested further I would check out that link I posted above.) anyways, my bad on this. I loathe mis-information/dis-information so much these days and yet I very well could have contributed to that massive problem. gonna try to avoid being so careless here on out. cheers
Slander is a civil matter. Hacking is a criminal offense.
The part where he built Apollo as per Reddit’s terms.
They literally allowed free 3rd party access to the API.
No one “stole” it or “leeched” it, or obtained it in any way that wasn’t by Reddit’s design.
My point was that they weren’t asking Apollo for a penny, so Apollo (like other 3rd party apps) kept sourcing the data.
If I, say, watch an NFL game and I am following former head coaches and professional analysts, am I not likely to get more a more complete range of informed opinions than if I just listened to a single person? Sure, they're all opinions trying to explain the facts on the screen, but people that help you think are invaluable.
I suppose. it is just as likely that they are all wrong though. So you get a bunch of wrong opinions. Did that make you think anymore about something? or did it just lead you to really having a bunch of misinformed opinions? and in the process now make you have an incorrect opinion?
I am not really seeing the benefit of that. Plus I think you would need to argue pretty hard to say that any post on social media is really there to make people think. Most of the time it is to barf out a bad take and then act like how can you think my take is bad.
The company is headquartered in San Francisco. You can bet the fbi/cia and / or other agencies are on this.
It is the right thing to have Fair, Reasonable, And Non-Discriminatory Pricing (FRAND)
Reasonable and non-discriminatory licensing - Wikipedia
Not sure how that makes it fair. API was there to help maintain the community. It was never meant for app developers to let millions of users use reddit for free.
Considering all that you just wrote, how do reconcile hanging out in these forums? There are very few facts in these comments and a ton of opinions. Some of those opinions are informed, many are not.
And yet... here we both are
once in awhile I do love the internet
A ransomware group that hacked into Reddit's servers back in February is threatening to release stolen data if Reddit does not walk back its planned API changes, reports Bleeping Computer (via The Verge).
At the time of the hack, no one took credit, but ransomware group BlackCat yesterday said that it was responsible. 80GB of compressed data was stolen through a phishing attack, and BlackCat says that the data will be made public unless Reddit pays $4.5 million and withdraws the API pricing changes that will go into effect on July 1.
The group claims to have "interesting confidential data" that includes information on how Reddit tracks users and censors people. BlackCat does not anticipate Reddit cooperating, and says that it expects to leak the data.
At the time of the hack, Reddit said that no user passwords, accounts, or credit card details were impacted, but internal documentation, code, and internal dashboards and business systems were obtained.
BlackCat's demand for an API rollback comes as Reddit prepares to begin charging developers for access to its API. Reddit's fees are putting popular third-party Reddit clients like Apollo out of business, and the API changes have resulted in protests in the form of subreddit blackouts.
Reddit CEO Steve Huffman has said that Reddit has no plan to change its new API business model in light of the negative feedback, and it is unlikely that the company will change its API pricing due to the data leak threat.
Article Link: Hackers Threaten to Release Reddit Data Unless API Changes Are Rolled Back
$12,000 per 50 million requests, which, for an app like Apollo comes out to around $20 million/year. Apollo currently charges for a Pro version which is $13/year. There are about 50,000 subscribers - so Apollo makes around $650,000/year. For comparison, Imgur comes out to about $3000 per 50 million requests - or 1/4 the price of Reddit. Reddit's API pricing is more comparable to Twitter, and Twitter's decision to start charging API access had less to do with money and more about shutting down 3rd party apps. Reddit seems to be taking the same approach - instead of just saying they no longer want 3rd party apps, their eliminating them in the guise of charged API access.
If you're truly interested in the details of all of this, you can read Christian Selig's (creator of Apollo) Reddit post breaking down all of the issues with Reddit's API pricing:
Again, the issue is NOT that Reddit wants to charge for API access. Again, if you really want to know what is going on, just do a quick Google search and you'll find tons of articles detailing the issues. One of the common themes, however, is that both users and developers have no issue with Reddit wanting to charger for API access. If anything, most everyone agrees that Reddit needs to do something to become profitable - whether that is charging for API access or allowing/requiring 3rd party apps to show Reddit ads. Which directly leads to my next point: instead of or in addition to, Reddit could have relatively easily changed how their API works to allow Reddit ads to be displayed in 3rd party apps. This is a suggestion many, many, many people have made. Ads are Reddit's primary source of income, and their biggest issue with 3rd party apps is that they don't display Reddit's ads, by providing ad access via their API this would have basically solved their issues.
Furthermore, Reddit has been extremely opaque in this entire saga. They announced they were going to start charging for API access months ago, but then didn't announce the actually pricing until a couple of weeks ago, giving developers barely 30 days to make the necessary changes to their apps - which simply isn't enough time for the vast majority of independent app creators. In addition, developers have been attempting to work with Reddit since the first announcement, but often times have been met with radio silence.
Again, if you are truly interested in all of this, I suggest you do some research on your own to educate yourself on what is actually happening.
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A replacement competitor might actually happen one day, but until that time there is nothing comparable to use. A community of Reddit's size and passion takes many years to build...
Truthfully, I hope the hackers do manage to disrupt things and this is coming from a faithful Reddit user of 14 years.
Oh he is "bulging" at the thought of making more money
They are in the wrong mainly for not releasing a good app themselves. Apollo was built more or less by one guy. They could just buy it if they can’t get it done with their top tier Silicon Valley staff.
If Reddit was offering it for free, it’s absolutely fair.