It's their business though. If they price-out competing apps because they want people to use their official app, what's wrong with that?
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Last high profile hacks were against Sony when they went after a guy who released mods for PS3.
I would like to see data behind the CEO’s comments about developers making millions off the free API’s. Doubt the developers would share it, hard to play victim if some are truly making that much.
The guy thought he WAS Elon Musk. Sorry bro, you're not the richest man in the world.
You obviously haven't been paying attention. The issue is not that Reddit is going to charge for API access, if anything pretty much every single 3rd party app developer, and the vast, vast, vast majority of Redditors agree that Reddit needs to either start charging for API access or allow 3rd party apps to display Reddit ad. No, the issue is that what Reddit is planning on charging is so outrageously expensive that even super popular apps like Apollo, that has 50,000 paid users, won't be able to afford to keep their app running. Furthermore, to compound the cost issue, Reddit has given barely 30 days notice b/w when they (finally) announced API pricing and when said pricing will go into affect. Even if Christian Selig (the developer of Apollo) thought he could make things economically viable, 30 days isn't enough time to make the necessary changes.
To summarize: developers and Redditors largely agree that Reddit should, and needs to, start charging for API access. Reddit has chosen to charge an exorbitant amount for API access, and has provided very little time for developers to make changers to their apps, effectively shutting down most 3rd party apps.
I don't use Reddit anymore (deleted my account last year), but I was there 10 years and never had a post deleted, was never banned from a subreddit, and was never was giving a warning/timeout.
I guess I just didn't hang out in the degenerate subs.
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It’s not just *what* Huffman did but *how* he went about it.
A competent CEO could have pushed through the exact same policy changes with a fraction of the backlash. Huffman simply doesn’t know how to read a room nor does he have the basic communication skills one expects from a corporate executive.
I got banned for telling the mods of a community that they were cowards for walking back immediately after the Reddit Admins told them they will be replaced if they don't open up. I got muted when I questioned which rule I broke.
The conversation wasn’t with the CEO, and if you actually listen to it it’s immediately clear what happened. It was abundantly clear to the person who the conversation was actually with, who apologized multiple times during the call for the misunderstanding.
This isn’t about heroes. Reddit could:
1. Serve ads via the API
2. Allow users to use their own API key, so that they can pay for their usage individually
3. Restrict third party app usage to Premium users, and set the pricing accordingly
4. Price the API calls at a rate roughly equivalent to their own published figures about monthly user revenue, instead of the proposed 10-30x that figure
Just to name a few of the options that many devs have suggested. Reddit has ignored them all.
They have the right to manage and price the platform however they see fit. We as users have the right to call it ********.
Eh, my understanding is the API doesn’t serve any ads.
That’s more on Reddit than the 3rd party apps.
And an overwhelming majority of Reddit users do not care about or know who Apollo is.
Call out what you want, but the majority of users do not care and they were (some still) locked out of things they enjoyed because Mods decided to do that without support from the users.
Please, delete your Reddit account, post history whatever. Like the others you'll probably be back 2-3 weeks later.
I'm genuinely concerned by some, or a lot, of these responses. Reddit has done nothing wrong. Was it the right thing to do? Clearly not, but 100% within their rights to do so and or worse if they so chose. It's their platform. They owe not a single user, or any app which used their platform anything, never have.
I recall, shouldn't Twitter have died by now? That Mastodon exodus sure has gone to a trickle.
They cannot, even if they wanted to, give in here or that opens up a whole new set of problems.
I recall, shouldn't Twitter have died by now? That Mastodon exodus sure has gone to a trickle.
They cannot, even if they wanted to, give in here or that opens up a whole new set of problems.
I deleted my Facebook, Instagram and Twitter accounts. At no time have I even been tempted to return to any of them.
Even if the majority of users on Reddit don’t care, that ignores the fact that the minority of passionate users who are upset, contribute a disproportionate share of content and engagement on the site. Not to mention the moderators.
Take those people away and though Reddit won’t die overnight, it will steadily deteriorate into a shadow of his former self, like Digg or AOL. With a little bit of luck, though, maybe the protests and negative coverage of the story will tank the company’s valuation for the upcoming IPO.
For those that can’t seem to not keep getting it all wrong.
It also doesn’t mean that users will continue to use their platform when it’s taken away.
Alright I’ll met you at the new goalpost.
1. This isn’t just about Apollo
2. The percentage of users affected is very different when you filter for the crowd that actually produces and moderates the content on the platform
3. Why are you so weirdly defensive? Like, agree or disagree, but you seem somehow personally insulted that I’m expressing my thoughts. Why do you care whether I delete my account? And why do you think I’d come back if I did? Like Twitter, some proportion of the user base will remain, some proportion will leave. The makeup of the overall population, as well as the quality of the content, may or may not change.
You do you!
Isn't this like stealing Wikipedia data? It's all public and was created by unpaid users.
Every business owes its users. If they don’t have users, they don’t have a business.