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Admittedly I don't get all the bitching about fragmentation. If you don't want fragmentation buy a vanilla android phone, there's a few of them on the market. People always talk about how Windows PCs suck because the manufacturers don't bother to improve upon it, so.. that's what they do with phones?
 
Wow someone mentioned WP7, is Microsoft even selling the WP7?

I like the concept of Android but the problems is you have different versions of the OS out there on multiple Vendor platforms all with different components

M wife had the HTC Droid Eris on that Horrible version 1.6 it came with, lacking performance and features. Then when the upgrade was available we upgraded it to 2.1 what a big mistake, the phone was horrible, barely usable. It seems everyone I know who has an Android device, has to take their battery out every so often because they lock up? What is with that?

I was looking at the incredible, but you could not get the device, then once you could they replaced it with the newer phones and dropped the price?

Personally it may work for some, but the iOS just works, no questions asked and for the most part updates come out for all iPhones, so all phones get the same package at the same time, to me that is smart engineering.
 
For everyone saying 4 days isn't long enough... For anyone who I know had the iPhone for even hours loved it. There isn't much learning curve. It shouldn't take 4 days + to get used to a phone.

My gf still doesn't know how to use her droid2 after 6 months. She is always taking my ip4 to use and play games. She learned how to use that right away. That's the beauty of iOS.

It does when you realize there is a lot more to it than you thought. Took me a good week to ten days to realize how awesome Android was after having an iPhone for two years. Dont think ill ever go back.

I like not having to use iTunes and the way it sucks having to upgrade your apps when you use your iTunes for both your phone and your iPod. Custom ROMs, better notifications....even when jailbroken, can use different modems. Just a ton of things Android offers that Apple dont.

iPhone is a very good device but the system is stale and all the phones look the same and the screen is now just too damn small. And c-mon Steve. It has been almost 5 years. You think you can make the friggin volume louder so you can hear the ringer and external speaker for music without it having to be practically noise free? Worst volume of any phone i have ever had.
 
Look! Another iOS vs Android thread!

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"FRAGMENTATION!!!!!"

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OP- 4 days isn't really enough to judge a phone ;)

ROFL. Well put. I hate android... too buggy for me, at least in my experience of apps crashing and phone needing more restarts than iOS but less than BlackBerry. Each has his/her own choice, mine is iOS because [at least for me] it just works - which is all I care about.
 
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I bought an attic on launch day and went back to my iPhone about a week later. I've used many android phones in the last but I prefer iOS and it's selection of apps much more than Android.

Wasn't impressed at all with the Atrix hardware..
 
The thing I hate about AT&T and android is that they prevent side loading of apps. You can only install an app though the marketplace. Perhaps the Nexus S will be different since its a "google" phone but I hate how AT&T locks down the phone.

That's really easy to get around. You can either root your phone which takes 3 minutes or you can leave your phone stock and use a program like wonderloader.
 
I've had a few high end android devices and the iphone 4. Loved them all.

I don't get how you can hate either... Some people are just too campy and like to hate on others to make themselves feel good about their purchase.
 
The thing I hate about AT&T and android is that they prevent side loading of apps. You can only install an app though the marketplace. Perhaps the Nexus S will be different since its a "google" phone but I hate how AT&T locks down the phone.

It will....the Nexus One had the same set up and you could side load apps. Also I wish the whole device was one color...not black front, white back.
 
I had the atrix and a lot of other android phones and they are all ok but nowhere near what apple has with ios. I don't care about fragmentation but every once in awhile I would like to stream a movie, watch a tv show, or a first run movie. I have no idea why I need a 4 inch screen if the only thing I can do is look at a website. In order for the phone to run good you have to turn of flash, and the battery life on them are terrible. I can go on and on, but I would rather have a WP7 before I get a android in its current state. At least with WP7 you have netflix.
 
LOL, in two years you've yet to experience one problem with Androids fragmentation issue's?? Do you use your phone?

It partly depends on what you want to do with it. 95% of Android phones are now on 2.x, and that pretty well covers almost all apps, which are often written to work even with the oldest versions... same as is done on iOS.

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It partly depends on what phone he bought.

My Incredible has been updated to 2.2, and probably will get 2.3... but it doesn't really matter to me if it does or not, because what I have is solid and works great.

OTOH, if he was cheap and got, say a Droid Eris with a slow CPU, then it's probably going to top out at Android 2.1, and that's without live wallpapers because HTC felt it'd be too slow.

That's no different than owning an iPhone 3G, and later Apple not allowing it to multitask. iOS is more fragmented than Android in some ways.
 
I'm not a big fan of android, not that I necessarily have anything against it, I just don't like the way the OS works and iOS has always been my first pick. However, SCREW MOTOROLA. If you want a good android phone, go with htc or samsung.
 
M wife had the HTC Droid Eris on that Horrible version 1.6 it came with, lacking performance and features. Then when the upgrade was available we upgraded it to 2.1 what a big mistake, the phone was horrible, barely usable. It seems everyone I know who has an Android device, has to take their battery out every so often because they lock up? What is with that?

I was looking at the incredible, but you could not get the device, then once you could they replaced it with the newer phones and dropped the price?

Personally it may work for some, but the iOS just works, no questions asked and for the most part updates come out for all iPhones, so all phones get the same package at the same time, to me that is smart engineering.


soooo i'm guessing you never read about how screwed up peoples iPhone 3G were after the iOS 4.0 update???? Now THAT was a bad experience.
 
Interesting comments in this thread. Right now I am getting used to an LG Optimus running Froyo (2.2) while having an iPad and Touch running iOS 4.3.

My Android phone has similar hardware specs to the iPhone 3GS. So far I have really only noticed one glaring deficiency of my Android. Video.

Not that I can't play video, but I can't easily buy it. Nor can I stream Netflix on my phone. It's a DRM issue I'm told. But if I want to play my DRM-free content it is a lot easier to add it to my phone. Just drag and drop to the SD card. Took me a couple days to figure out a decent media player. Tried yxplayer, which sucks on both iOS and Android. Video skips horribly. Finally found Mobiplayer which seems to handle everything.

I do love the integrated Google tools. Google Nav is fabulous. Voice is about as funnily accurate as autocorrect. But the stand out so far is Swype. Now that is an intuitive keyboard tool! 2 tries and it already knew how to spell my Polish surname. Autocorrect has yet to figure that out.

Honestly I think a lot of the complaints against Android are quickly evaporating. The Android Market is as slick an experience as the App Store. Amazon's mp3 store and streaming player beats iTunes right now for music. As soon as someone can conquer the video download market, Android has it nailed. Notifications and Home Screen widgets are so much more helpful in that OS.

It'll be interesting to see what Apple comes up with for iOS 5. Seems like they've spent more time getting content we buy rather than actually improving the experience.
 
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