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Halide Camera Team Launches Kino Pro Video App

People seem to be willing to pay unlimited amounts for iPhone Pro. Wonder how long until big budget TV shows can feasibly be filmed on an iPhone Pro (with an extremely expensive rig around the phone and stuff I'm sure).
 
seanmcbay said:
Yes. Don’t waste your money on this. Don’t know why MR is advertising for them.
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Because it's a new app?

bLackjackj said:
No, it’s not a “bargain”. Please explain what features are missing from BlackMagic before promoting this expensive app.
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We include what's easily $25+ in presets from pro colorists, for one.
andrewxgx said:
they'll probably pull a Halide there too, make app free in a year or two and require a sub for new features
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We added an FAQ item about that, if you are curious:

Your other app, Halide, is a subscription product now. Will that happen to Kino, too?​

Good question! The honest answer is that we don't know.

What we think is more important to answer is what it would mean to you if we make Kino free with an optional subscription or one-time purchase in the future, like what we did with Halide.

Let's look at Halide: the app launched seven years ago, and started at $2,99. When we rolled out the second version of Halide three years later, we decided to give this update to everyone who had bought the app for free — and give years of updates on top of that, also for free!

All Halide users who ever bought the app can use it for life, along with all the features they paid for and over two years of updates on top of that. That's true to this day.

Last year, we started offering an option for those users to upgrade to get new updates with extra features. But that's completely optional. The app, and all its features will always keep working, will still get compatibility updates for new iPhones, etc.

We try to do the best for our users at all times, and part of that is honoring the people that supported us from the beginning. In all of our apps' history for the last 7 years in business, we've always taken care of our users first.

In brief: we don't know, but if we do, we'll make sure that you are taken care of, and if you buy the app now you'll own it for as long as it's around.
 
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chouseworth said:
Most often when a commenter goes to such lengths to criticize a new offering, I tend to ignore it and look for better reviews.
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Spot-on and same here. An excellent policy ignoring.

I purchased Kino today for $9.99 and from initial playing around with it for a few minutes I'm very impressed. I still have a ways to go before I can comment further.
 
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It looks good but nothing beats the ScopeFlare app so far, it's a pity that it's no longer available although I still keep it on my iPad.
 
Cocoi said:
Because it's a new app?


We include what's easily $25+ in presets from pro colorists, for one.

We added an FAQ item about that, if you are curious:

Your other app, Halide, is a subscription product now. Will that happen to Kino, too?​

Good question! The honest answer is that we don't know.

What we think is more important to answer is what it would mean to you if we make Kino free with an optional subscription or one-time purchase in the future, like what we did with Halide.

Let's look at Halide: the app launched seven years ago, and started at $2,99. When we rolled out the second version of Halide three years later, we decided to give this update to everyone who had bought the app for free — and give years of updates on top of that, also for free!

All Halide users who ever bought the app can use it for life, along with all the features they paid for and over two years of updates on top of that. That's true to this day.

Last year, we started offering an option for those users to upgrade to get new updates with extra features. But that's completely optional. The app, and all its features will always keep working, will still get compatibility updates for new iPhones, etc.

We try to do the best for our users at all times, and part of that is honoring the people that supported us from the beginning. In all of our apps' history for the last 7 years in business, we've always taken care of our users first.

In brief: we don't know, but if we do, we'll make sure that you are taken care of, and if you buy the app now you'll own it for as long as it's around.
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Hello!
I have purcahsed and installed the app on my iPHone 15 Pro. In the AppStore it is stated that up to 18 colour grades are included.

However in the app I only have access to 7? Sando, glostrup, lektar, kodiak 79, bnw, tamarisk and alpine??

EDIT: Never mind. I forgot to read the manual and just learned that additional presets for iPhone 15 Pro models are available when Apple log is activated.

Thanks for not just adding cinematic grades that let be frank, can sometimes be dull. Anjin and Lektar have a subtle pop which is perfect for my YouTube video.
 
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Cocoi said:
Because it's a new app?


We include what's easily $25+ in presets from pro colorists, for one.

We added an FAQ item about that, if you are curious:

Your other app, Halide, is a subscription product now. Will that happen to Kino, too?​

Good question! The honest answer is that we don't know.

What we think is more important to answer is what it would mean to you if we make Kino free with an optional subscription or one-time purchase in the future, like what we did with Halide.

Let's look at Halide: the app launched seven years ago, and started at $2,99. When we rolled out the second version of Halide three years later, we decided to give this update to everyone who had bought the app for free — and give years of updates on top of that, also for free!

All Halide users who ever bought the app can use it for life, along with all the features they paid for and over two years of updates on top of that. That's true to this day.

Last year, we started offering an option for those users to upgrade to get new updates with extra features. But that's completely optional. The app, and all its features will always keep working, will still get compatibility updates for new iPhones, etc.

We try to do the best for our users at all times, and part of that is honoring the people that supported us from the beginning. In all of our apps' history for the last 7 years in business, we've always taken care of our users first.

In brief: we don't know, but if we do, we'll make sure that you are taken care of, and if you buy the app now you'll own it for as long as it's around.
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Hello,

is it possible with your Kino app to force lens selection?

For example when I choose 3x zoom lens to record video but iPhone decides that light conditions aren't good enough and automatically switch to 1x lens and make digital zoom / crop. This results to horrible image quality and inconsistency during shooting when used lens is switched regularly based on current light conditions. Every app I tried does this. I'm starting to think that CameraKit API cannot override this behavior and it's really frustrating.

Do you have some insight about this feature becoming issue in low light? It's driving me nuts. Thank you.
 
I couldn't work this out from reading the description/marketing copy, but can you 'preview' luts while recording WITHOUT baking the lut into the footage, keeping the footage as ungraded Apple Log (similar to Blackmagic App)?
 
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Cool app but I won’t be updating to iOS 17 just because of it. Kinda bummed with this requirement.

I wonder, why it took so long for developers to create a camera that can use image overlays (LUTs are basically overlays) while shooting videos? It does not need ML features or anything
 
There is a minor info to add that for the region Ukraine the AppStore has just charged me $11.99.
VAT, I know that, however it's still not the $9.99 for everyone over the globe as the price may differ given the tax policies in your country.
 
IAmStumped said:
Fun fact: 'kino' is the word for 'cinema' in Russian, Ukrainian and Bulgarian. I'm guessing the developers hail from one of those countries...
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Not only. It's a German noun. Almost every country East/South East of Germany uses kino for cinema. Norway too.

Basically there are 3 major words for cinema in Europe:
1.Cinema (mainly Western EUR because cinéma is French noun)
2.Kino (Central/Eastern EUR up to Ural Mountains and Caucasus)
3.Bioscoop/bioskop (Netherlands/Bulgaria)

Anyway. One-off purchase is worth the try alone.
 
For those comments regarding the word 'kino'.

In April, I sent a letter to the Kino (Halide, Spectre) developers offering a pro-bono localisation services for their apps as I strongly believe those apps must be in Ukrainian. The reply I got from their support team representative stated that they were focused on releasing their new app for video (Kino), and they would get back to me when/if they had the capacity.
They have never got back to me though.

By my comment I mean the developers may be from the Eastern Europe (Netherlands, I believe) or wanting to use mnemonic names, but they are not that interested in promotion their apps in, at least, Ukraine.
 
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I couldn't work this out from reading the description/marketing copy, but can you 'preview' luts while recording WITHOUT baking the lut into the footage, keeping the footage as ungraded Apple Log (similar to Blackmagic App)?
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OK never mind, found it on their user manual page:

"You can use grades in three ways: with Instant Grade, using a grade preview, or by applying it later to existing footage."

www.shotwithkino.com

The Kino Pro Video Camera Manual | Kino - Pro Video Camera for iPhone

Kino: Pro Video Camera for iPhone — A handy manual
www.shotwithkino.com www.shotwithkino.com
 
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Cocoi said:
Because it's a new app?


We include what's easily $25+ in presets from pro colorists, for one.

We added an FAQ item about that, if you are curious:

Your other app, Halide, is a subscription product now. Will that happen to Kino, too?​

Good question! The honest answer is that we don't know.

What we think is more important to answer is what it would mean to you if we make Kino free with an optional subscription or one-time purchase in the future, like what we did with Halide.

Let's look at Halide: the app launched seven years ago, and started at $2,99. When we rolled out the second version of Halide three years later, we decided to give this update to everyone who had bought the app for free — and give years of updates on top of that, also for free!

All Halide users who ever bought the app can use it for life, along with all the features they paid for and over two years of updates on top of that. That's true to this day.

Last year, we started offering an option for those users to upgrade to get new updates with extra features. But that's completely optional. The app, and all its features will always keep working, will still get compatibility updates for new iPhones, etc.

We try to do the best for our users at all times, and part of that is honoring the people that supported us from the beginning. In all of our apps' history for the last 7 years in business, we've always taken care of our users first.

In brief: we don't know, but if we do, we'll make sure that you are taken care of, and if you buy the app now you'll own it for as long as it's around.
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Yes I have had halide 90% of the time I use stock app bc I just don’t need much better but in the 10% of scenarios that I NEED something more Halide does the trick and i appreciated the support you guys provided when you went to mk2. I actually bought kino right away for this reason I’m not sure I’ll need it soon but I do intend to try it and already it has more features and control than stock app and I appreciate interface more than most other pro video apps I’ve used Blackmagic is also good but there’s room for both apps.
 
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