Read the article. Halide has been offering raw capture for ages on multiple generations of iPhone.
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Halide Developer Explains How Apple's ProRAW Option Works on iPhone 12 Pro
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I think Ben Sandofsky (halide) was probably referring to the amount of available ram after system which is probably roughly double on the Pro phones.
As someone with too many cameras who always shoots RAW+Jpeg this appeals to me a lot.
Can you use ProRAW and Live Photos simultaneously?
And if they're DNG's does that mean no more HEIF compatibility issues?
Do iPhone RAW's have lens corrections baked in? I imagine the ultra wide almost certainly does.
If they can clear up the green point flaring I'll set aside my camera budget to buy the next iPhone.
Can you use ProRAW and Live Photos simultaneously?
And if they're DNG's does that mean no more HEIF compatibility issues?
Do iPhone RAW's have lens corrections baked in? I imagine the ultra wide almost certainly does.
If they can clear up the green point flaring I'll set aside my camera budget to buy the next iPhone.
Why do YOU think it won't work? same processor, independent of camera sensor ... obviously I cannot provide evidence as Apple has chosen to only implement it on 12 Pro models ... and for RAM, a lot of things work with less RAM, just slow(er) and not providing a positive user experience but still ...
Now clearly, Apple's imaging computation (and ProRAW is part of that) require a lot of CPU and RAM, I cn see this all the time on my 11 ProMax when I take advantage of that computing and all other apps running have to reload ...
"ProCamera App to shoot RAW on iPhone. Other popular third-party camera apps that support shooting RAW on iPhone are the Moment Camera App, Halide and even the Lightroom Camera App included in Adobe Lightroom Mobile"
If you edit using a program like Lightroom, after editing your dng you can export a jpeg (or tiff/psd/dng/png) and specify the image quality, resolution, etc (for jpeg). And then throw the RAW away.
BUT... that's not a good idea. I have many thousands of RAWs from shooting in that format for the last 15 or so years. And I often go back to re-edit photos as image processing tools have become better over the years. Ditto with my evolving editing interpretation tastes changing.
Lightroom is a killer DAM and image editor. I highly recommend it.
For sure on that. I tried the new Halide as soon as I received my 12 Pro. What a frustrating experience.
I'm super stoked now that I can process iPhone RAWs with Lightroom. I just updated to 14.3 on my phone and Lightroom on my M1 MBA processes the quick experiment photos I made just fine.
Here’s a sausage I cooked on the smoker and that ain't raw format it is the smoke ring. Picture taken with iPhone 12 portrait mode
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How is it a money grab? Not everyone needs to shoot in RAW. For most snaps people take with their phones jpeg is fine. I suspect overwhelming majority of iPhone customers don't know what RAW is, its benefits, or how to process it.
It's a huge plus for photographers who take image making seriously, especially in certain lighting situations.
Apple doesn't deserve to make money? I don't understand the hate ... It's a company. They're in business to make money.
Why is it a scam? You don’t need to downplay it just because you don’t have it..this will be very useful for people who are serious about photography
They have less RAM.
But also, I don't really understand the question. Surely the whole point of a more expensive 'Pro' model should be that it offers more features? And this, in particular, is a feature that's not very compelling to most users. So the differentiation makes sense to me.
If anything, I feel like the iPhone Pro isn't differentiated enough from the regular model.
Whether it's the CPU or some other chip, it very clearly does require a lot of computing resources:
"Once you get RAW in your hands, the first thing you’ll notice is capture speed. A traditional RAW capture takes as little as 50 milliseconds. ProRAW takes between two and three seconds to finish processing."
So, that's already fairly slow; slow enough that something like burst mode isn't feasible. If it were to run on the iPhone 11 Pro Max, it would be even slower!
Uh, OK. It's a high-end feature. You don't have to use it, and they're not trying to scam you into buying a Pro.
99.9% of users will probably never know or need to know what RAW is.
This reminds me of when the iPhone and iPhone 3G didn't have video recording (hard to believe now, I know). Some people would do a jailbreak to retrofit video recording as a feature, and then complain that Apple was trying to scam them into getting a 3GS.
Thing is, yeah, you could video-record on a 3G, but it wasn't a good experience. The camera sensor, CPU, RAM, everything just weren't quite cut out for it. The 3GS had twice the RAM (which effectively meant far more than twice the user-available RAM), and a much better camera.
Sometimes, differentiation is artificial (which, in the case of a Pro model, seems fair to me!), but this doesn't even appear to be that kind of case.
Some of the regular iPhone model owners complain about lack of ProRaw... and act surprise............ but you all knew about ProRaw before you bought your regular iPhones!! It was talked about during the original iPhone 12 presentation. It was right there on Apple website’s specs.
Why the sudden anger as if Apple cheated you? That is as bad as the perception that Apple cheated you.
Why the sudden anger as if Apple cheated you? That is as bad as the perception that Apple cheated you.