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Hamburger Helpless

freeny said:
Feel sorry for your kids.:( Im pretty sure this additude is also forced upon them in other aspects of your family life. Reminds me of my mother....
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Oh please, I feel more sorry for people that eat meat and things like pork skins and especially things like hot dogs, pepperoni, beef...I rather lick the pavement outside or my cats back hair than eat crap like that!! EWWWWW I am about to be sick thinking about it. :p Employees of these meat packing places who make things like bologna would say they would NEVER eat it--DO YOU even know what it is?? Geez, its 2005, no one has to eat animals to survive anymore and just because people have been doing it for millions of years doesn't make it right! :)

And for the record I AM NOT A MOM yet---but I WILL do what is best for my kids always when the time comes----and I think they will THANK me for letting them decide if they want to eat a pig's ass or not!! ;)
 
jelloshotsrule said:
who said anything about eating only VEGGIES???

believe it or not, vegetarians eat a lot of different things, that can provide them with enough protein, iron, vitamins, etc.

the point is, your focus on vegetarianism as narrow minded is narrow in scope in itself.... vegetarianism (and veganism) can be healthy if done properly. just as eating meat can be.

that said, i choose not to support the meat industry as it stands in this country, and unless doctors tell me otherwise, i will raise my kids without meat until they are old enough to decide on their own (assuming i ever have kids)
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Okay, what else do you include in your childs diet that does not come from an animal? Knowlege doesnt count....

Its the fact that you are depriving your child of the choice in the first place.
Of course this conversation can get pretty ugly so perhaps with your upcomming response I will let it rest.:rolleyes:
 
macartistkel said:
Oh please, I feel more sorry for people that eat meat and things like pork skins and especially things like hot dogs, pepperoni, beef...I rather lick the pavement outside or my cats back hair than eat crap like that!! EWWWWW I am about to be sick thinking about it. :p Employees of these meat packing places who make things like bologna would say they would NEVER eat it--DO YOU even know what it is?? Geez, its 2005, no one has to eat animals to survive anymore and just because people have been doing it for millions of years doesn't make it right! :)

And for the record I AM NOT A MOM yet---but I WILL do what is best for my kids always when the time comes----and I think they will THANK me for letting them decide if they want to eat a pig's ass or not!! ;)
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So do you like your pavement and cat ass with or without tofu?
 
As far as the vegetarian stuff goes:

Some entire societies are vegetarian. Some are almost entirely carnivorous - Arctic Circle populations eat animal products almost exclusively. People adapt.

Me? I'm omnivorous. I have molars and I have canines. Billions of years of evolution have prepared me to eat meat and plant material.

I don’t think eating meat is a problem. It’s part of the circle of life. Animals eat other animals; I don’t see why we can’t or shouldn’t. Likewise, I love fruits and veggies and grains. I think the problem is in eating too much crap food, no matter where it came from. My current need to diet didn't come from devotion to healthy eating habits....

If there were a Broccoli Helper, I’d try it. At least there’d have been no grease-related issue. ;)
 
it doesn't need to get ugly, it just doesn't make sense to judge that which you obviously don't know much about.

raising a kid vegan, i think that could be tough, yes. i'm unlikely to do that, and have heard of vegans who didn't do it. (i'm not a vegan personally, though i do wish i had the discipline/will to do it).

nuts, grains, yogurt, vegetables, fruits, etc.

you seem to think that meat is some magical source of nutrition, when really quite the opposite is true, especially taking into account all the hormones animals are pumped with (this is also true for milk and cheese these days).
 
Of course this conversation can get pretty ugly so perhaps with your upcomming response I will let it rest.:rolleyes:
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Yes very true, this can definitely turn into one of those subjects like religion because no matter what some people can only see things one way and they will not change. So I am going to stop now with this thread because I get really worked up over some animal rights and I will probably get a ban!! :)
 
jsw said:
As far as the vegetarian stuff goes:

Some entire societies are vegetarian. Some are almost entirely carnivorous - Arctic Circle populations eat animal products almost exclusively. People adapt.

Me? I'm omnivorous. I have molars and I have canines. Billions of years of evolution have prepared me to eat meat and plant material.

I don’t think eating meat is a problem. It’s part of the circle of life. Animals eat other animals; I don’t see why we can’t or shouldn’t. Likewise, I love fruits and veggies and grains. I think the problem is in eating too much crap food, no matter where it came from. My current need to diet didn't come from devotion to healthy eating habits....

If there were a Broccoli Helper, I’d try it. At least there’d have been no grease-related issue. ;)
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Thank you jsw. nicely said.
 
MongoTheGeek said:
I am the primary cook in the house and the thing that gets my goat is when I ask "What do you want for dinner?" and I get back "I don't know."

I've threatened to just grab random things toss it in a pot and then cook and serve. When I am asked "What the hell is this." the answer will be "What you asked for... I don't know"
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AMEN!

It's about the same way here, except the reason I do all the cooking is that early on into the relationship I learned that my girlfriend is practically incapable of cooking anything that won't make me sick. In roughly six months I think she's done maybe four meals, three of which made me explosively nauseous afterward. Oddly enough, one of them was indeed Hamburger Helper. It's not really food anyway.
 
especially taking into account all the hormones animals are pumped with (this is also true for milk and cheese these days).
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Yes that is so true, everything is pumped with hormones these days.....and don't forget unless a person buys organic vegetables, they will be covered with pesticides!! ;)
 
macartistkel said:
Yes very true, this can definitely turn into one of those subjects like religion because no matter what some people can only see things one way and they will not change. So I am going to stop now with this thread because I get really worked up over some animal rights and I will probably get a ban!! :)
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Likewise, I'll stop posting here for a while. I've been very much trying the less-meat approach for a few weeks, attempting, when possible, to eat vegetarian.

However, all of this talk has made me hungry, so it's off to Outback for me. Some cow, which was alive just a short time ago, died so that I could get my steak. I'd feel bad, but cows had the same four billion years to evolve as we did, and they chose to become tasty instead of dangerous.

Edit: as is so often the case in my life, I'm too lazy to go. Hence I'll go down to the caf here and have a salad and clam chowder (and anyone who wants to defend a clam's right to live, kncok yourself out...). It'll be good for me. But, damn it, I want a steak!
 
macartistkel said:
Yes that is so true, everything is pumped with hormones these days.....and don't forget unless a person buys organic vegetables, they will be covered with pesticides!! ;)
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I don't always buy organic, and yet I've never been covered in pesticides. ;)
 
which brings up whether "organic" really means anything with the silly lack of regulations on the label these days.

one nutrition doctor at the green fest said that while potatoes are the most pesticide laced veggies, they are also the most healthy overall (contrary to popular belief). and that this healthiness outweighed the pesticides... though buying org. potatoes was obviously preferable.

jsw- so much for the respectfully. ;)
 
Those wishing to get on their vegetarian or meat-eating soap-boxes, please go here, here, or here.

The rest of us will revel in the fine humor of imagining jsw sitting at the kitchen table eating lumpy Taco Helper out of the pan.
 
emw said:
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The rest of us will revel in the fine humor of imagining jsw sitting at the kitchen table eating lumpy Taco Helper out of the pan.
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Apparently, you didn't read my post. ;) I didn't eat it out of the pan.

I ate it off of her (Madagascar) plate.

jelloshotsrule said:
jsw- so much for the respectfully. ;)
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Perhaps you missed my edit... it's salad and mollusks for me today. Um... yum. :)
 
jsw said:
I'd feel bad, but cows had the same four billion years to evolve as we did, and they chose to become tasty instead of dangerous.!
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Cue Far Side comic...
 
jsw said:
I ate it off of her (Madagascar) plate.
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Not only were you eating meat, you were eating off of a plate with animals on it? That's just sick. :p

freeny said:
Has anyone tried Tuna Helper?
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No, but we're apparently having "Slow Cooker Helper" tonight.
 
Just a funny story my coworker just told me- He was attending a rennaissance fair where at the "grub station" a women was in despair at the food choices. Turkey leg, Rack of ribs etc.. when she asked the server if there were anything on the menu that was vegetarian he replied, "Ma'am, everything on the menu was vegetarian at one time".
 
freeny said:
Just a funny story my coworker just told me- He was attending a rennaissance fair where at the "grub station" a women was in despair at the food choices. Turkey leg, Rack of ribs etc.. when she asked the server if there were anything on the menu that was vegetarian he replied, "Ma'am, everything on the menu was a vegetarian at one time".
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Ah ha ha ha ha! Excellent! :D

Speaking of "rennaissance" reminded me of how vegetarianism has only recently been something people do out of choice... it's almost always previously been out of necessity.
 
Mmm OT:
jsw, I'm somehow not surprized you can't cook hamburger helper. :D

I'd really love to see you trying to make it.. it sounds like a bad cartoon!

/yes I'm also a veggie
//MMM TOFU
///no soapbox for me today, though!
 
emw said:
Huh. I'd always thought of you as more of a fruit, myself.


:p
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:(

no love for KT.

my life is like a ruined batch of hamburger helper!

/waaahhh!!
//*sobbing*
///why do you hate mee???
 
katie ta achoo said:
:(

no love for KT.
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And a thin-skinned fruit as well. ;)

katie ta achoo said:
my life is like a ruined batch of hamburger helper!
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What does lumpy cheese mix have to do with this?

katie ta achoo said:
/waaahhh!!
//*sobbing*
///why do you hate mee???
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Come on now, you know I'm kidding around. I could never hate a vegetarian economist. :D
 
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