Handbrake: I LOVE THIS MACHINE!

[Meep]

I've yet to regret not getting the extra 2.8... if I want more speed in the future... I'll sell my 2.8 to someone that needs it and buy a single 3.2

Another GREAT benefit to the Quad Core vs the Octo Core... MUCH LESS EXPENSIVE to upgrade the CPU Speed in the future ;-) hehehe

It great that you love your Mac Pro but surely buying another 2.8Ghz chip would give you er another 2.8Ghz (well actually 4 times that, for each core) of power where as upgrading to a single 3.2Ghz would only give you 0.4Ghz (times that by four for each core) of an increase. Is that not correct or am i missing something?

Also someone one here said that the 3.2Ghz use a different motherboard to the 2.8 and 3.0's, i'm sure if that's true but it would mean you can't put a 3.2Ghz chip in.

I don't mean to piss on your parade, they're just two (pretty big) holes that i saw.

 

[krye]

Because I've tried MTR... and it's nice... but it has issues ripping certain types of disks... and the same disk rips about 50% faster (on average) in DVD SHRINK via VMWARE than it does natively on MTR.

Fair enough? LOL

Totally! I've been using DVD Shrink with DVD Decryptor for years. DVD Shrink is awesome. I have from time to time come across a few DVDs that it couldn't break, but far fewer that MTR.

 

[krye]

DVD Fab is also another great one. It rips a lot of higher level encryptions that shrink can't do. I love 'em both.

Yeh, but DVD Shrink is free.

 

[DanBUK]

sexy, isn't it?


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It barely made a dent in my performance too.

iBlue (or anyone else who knows): What is the iPhoto icon at the bottom of the picture with the little files around it?

 

[FF_productions]

I managed to rip most of my dvd collection..before running out of space.


I used to try H.264, but the encodes would take 2-3x longer...


So, I went with MPEG4 at 2500-3000 KBPS, I would get 130 to sometimes 200 FPS. That was using about 1.5 processors.

The bottleneck turned out to be the DVD drives. I ran another instance of Handbrake using an external usb 2 dvd drive. FPS dipped below 70 FPS.

When I looked in Activity Monitor (wish I could post it), according to the Disk I/O, it was over like 2000 I/O's a second because the dvd drives were feeding data back and forth.

 

[GotPro]

Isn't that kinda slow? I was hoping for better performance. Man, am I going to be dissapointed when my Mac Pro arrives! I had a 2.8 Dual Xeon rig that I built back in 2005 that used to rip DVD in 7-15 minutes.

Or, am I to understand that you ripped, then encoded to another format? Is that the reason for the slow down?

No... it's the extra encoding...

Through VMWARE running (1 CPU) in XP under OSX... I can "rip" a dvd in 4-7 minutes.

However, it's re-encoding it to take it from 7Gigs down to 1Gig yet keeping watchable quality that hits the CPU like crazy.

Try it on your current machine... download Handbrake for Windows and give it a whirl. Use iPod High-Rez settings with 2-pass encode.

Bet it takes longer than 5 minutes ;-)

 

[fluidedge]

I've just tried to download mac the ripper. The website looks a bit 1999 and the download link doesn;t work. Is this application dead?

What else can you use instead of mac the ripper (freeware)

 

[GotPro]

Sometimes, it's just handy to have XP installed through Fusion.

Seriously... DVD Shrink is awesome. And Free. Google It.

 

[aaronw1986]

I've just tried to download mac the ripper. The website looks a bit 1999 and the download link doesn;t work. Is this application dead?

What else can you use instead of mac the ripper (freeware)

No the application is not dead, I downloaded it yesterday actually. Has worked great for me for months. The website does look a little outdated, version 3 is in beta right now. You have to donate to get access, but I guess you then get all the next releases. Version 3 looks sweet, and is Universal Binary.

 

[ntrigue]

I was trying to think of a reason to run Windoze. Looks like I found it. Last XP computer I owned I was using DVDX or something?

 

[Achiever]

No the application is not dead, I downloaded it yesterday actually. Has worked great for me for months. The website does look a little outdated, version 3 is in beta right now. You have to donate to get access, but I guess you then get all the next releases. Version 3 looks sweet, and is Universal Binary.

Has v3 actually been released on MTR (even in a beta)? I had been waiting for it for a while but then gave up when I found Handbrake was available, functional and free. The trifecta!

How is the new MTR interface and speed? As easy as the old one? What is the requested donation to get it?

 

[aaronw1986]

Has v3 actually been released on MTR (even in a beta)? I had been waiting for it for a while but then gave up when I found Handbrake was available, functional and free. The trifecta!

How is the new MTR interface and speed? As easy as the old one? What is the requested donation to get it?

It is currently in beta. I just found out yesterday, but have not donated to gain access. There is a page on their forums explaining how to get access. It's pretty much donate what you want. I was thinking maybe like $20 if I do.

 

[Achiever]

It is currently in beta. I just found out yesterday, but have not donated to gain access. There is a page on their forums explaining how to get access. It's pretty much donate what you want. I was thinking maybe like $20 if I do.

Thanks for the head's up. I will look for it.

 

[tugger]

I've just tried to download mac the ripper. The website looks a bit 1999 and the download link doesn;t work. Is this application dead?

They're using mirrors for the downloads and (at least) one of the mirrors is DOA. After about 20 attempts I finally got to a mirror that's working. Keep trying.

Note that the app is PowerPC. It works on the MP, but I gotta believe the Universal app will see substantial a performace boost. FYI on my rig it took about 23 min to rip just the main feature (no extras) of The Hunt for Red October (02h16m).

 

[GotPro]

They're using mirrors for the downloads and (at least) one of the mirrors is DOA. After about 20 attempts I finally got to a mirror that's working. Keep trying.

Note that the app is PowerPC. It works on the MP, but I gotta believe the Universal app will see substantial a performace boost. FYI on my rig it took about 23 min to rip just the main feature (no extras) of The Hunt for Red October (02h16m).

And there is a good reason I don't really use it anymore.

With DVD Shrink the movie ripped in about 9 minutes.

 

[fluidedge]

ZOMYGODICANTBELIEVEIT!

I just tried ripping and encoding Into PSP format "fight club" (Over 2 hour film) using the mac the ripper then handbrake technique on my Q core MP - The rip took 30 mins and the encode took 9 minutes! Averaging 347 fps!!

wow!

 

[imacdaddy]

I just got my beast today but haven't tried ripping / handbreak yet. But I tried re-encoding a 700MB divx file to MP4 using VisualHub to play on my appleTV. With my G5 iMac, it would normally take over 2hrs. Under 2.8 Octo MP, it took...12 mins!!!!!!!! UNBELIEVABLE!!!

 

[Mastershredder]

Yeh, but DVD Shrink is free.

There's also a free version of DVD fab as well... google it.

 

[aaronw1986]

Does anyone use handbrake to encode ripped DVD folders to 700MB xvid files? When I try and do this, Handbrake either shows and error and closes, or just closes.

 

[GotPro]

ZOMYGODICANTBELIEVEIT!

I just tried ripping and encoding Into PSP format "fight club" (Over 2 hour film) using the mac the ripper then handbrake technique on my Q core MP - The rip took 30 mins and the encode took 9 minutes! Averaging 347 fps!!

wow!

Which is why you need Fusion and DVDShrink. You spend 39 minutes. You can reduce that to 14 minutes total by using DVDShrink instead of MacTheRipper.

I just finished ripping Lost in Space (Over 2 hours)... and you can see... by the screen shot... it took 6 minutes and 33 seconds to rip. MTR really is Slooooowwwwww.

I'd prefer to use Mac Native apps as well... but some times you just have to give in and let Windows do something if it can do it better.

I mean, thats a 24 minute improvement ... PER DISC... and if you do 20 discs... OMG.

It's sooo worth it.

 

[GotPro]

Ice Age (for my daughters) just ripped in 4 minutes 50 seconds.

Seriously, Get DVD Shrink. Install it. Use it.

***LEGAL Disclaimer*** By the way... any movies I'm ripping are owned fully by me, purchased from retail locations at full price, and I'm only enacting my right to play them on my iPod. *sigh*.

 

[Roy]

Ice Age (for my daughters) just ripped in 4 minutes 50 seconds.

Seriously, Get DVD Shrink. Install it. Use it.

***LEGAL Disclaimer*** By the way... any movies I'm ripping are owned fully by me, purchased from retail locations at full price, and I'm only enacting my right to play them on my iPod. *sigh*.

Thanks for the info. You had me wondering there for a few minutes.

 

[fluidedge]

DVD shrink seems to run on something called Windows XP? Not heard of it myself.

Can you point me in the direction of a Mac OS X solution that is quicker than MTR?

 

[GotPro]

That's the point. There isn't one.

If you are so stuck in ONLY OS X mode that you don't want to look at a solution available to you that includes Windows on a Mac... then be happy with Mac the Ripper.

It is the best ripping solution for OS X... period.

 

[fluidedge]

That's the point. There isn't one.

If you are so stuck in ONLY OS X mode that you don't want to look at a solution available to you that includes Windows on a Mac... then be happy with Mac the Ripper.

It is the best ripping solution for OS X... period.

I'm happy with MTR. Version 3 is coming soon apparently which might be as quick. I can't be bothered with windows on my mac. I wouldn't ever use it.