Hands-On: iOS 11 Brings Major Updates to the Camera and Photos Apps

[Zaqfalcon]

How compatible are HEIF with other photo apps and editing software?

 

[simon lefisch]

So does that mean FCPX will support HEVC, since it currently does not support that codec?

 

[bmac89]

I'm looking forward to the long exposure feature. I know it has been possible with third party camera apps but it will be good to have the option to create the long exposure effect after taking a standard live photo and of course having it inbuilt is nice.

 

[sos47]

i hope there will be enhancements for managing metadata (keywords, geocoding). until now i have to use the macOS version of Photos.

 

[MRDuke]

What about the ability to view, edit, and add keywords/locations? That's what I'm wanting.

This is indeed an option that I really mis. Type a quick keyword with a picture makes it easier to find back!

 

[unobtainium]

When Photos makes the full screen map with pins at photo locations like iPhoto did, I'll switch to Photos.

You can already do this by going to Albums > Places > Map View. Unless I'm not understanding what you're asking for.

 

[VTECaddict]

So does that mean FCPX will support HEVC, since it currently does not support that codec?

Yes, macOS High Sierra and relevant apps will be updated to support HEVC and HEIF as per the WWDC keynote.
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I'm a little concerned about the A9 chip requirement for the new image and video formats. I have an iPhone 7 and an iPad Mini 2 (thanks, Apple, for again ignoring the Mini in this year's iPad updates!) so will this update mean I can't sync my photo and video library to my iPad?

I believe A9 chip or newer is required for hardware decode. A10 chip or newer required for hardware encode. Older devices will rely on software decoding, which presumably will be slower.

 

[mikecorp]

no support for my iphone 5, so I hope they will come out with new smaller version iphone 8

 

[skier8689]

When Photos makes the full screen map with pins at photo locations like iPhoto did, I'll switch to Photos.

It's in ios10, under albums > places
[doublepost=1497341235][/doublepost]Can anyone report if iPhone 7 shutter lag is fixed? The new Live Photos feature of choosing any frame will help, but man it drives me nuts having a fancy flagship phone and the shutter doesn't fire immediately when pressed.

 

[himanshumodi]

Considering, camera and photos are the most universal use-cases of smart phone users, all these are very welcome updates. All the more power to us to capture our daily memories.

 

[btrach144]

Can't wait for the new file formats and the changes to live photos!

 

[xmlninja]

HEVC, HEIF - exactly how new devices do i need? is it only for devices with hardware support for HEVC like the macbook pro 2017? Means my macbook pro 2016 will still use jpegs?

What about icloud photos library - can i convert all my files to hevc/heif in the cloud and have formats supported locally?
I guess not, i suppose only new shots with new devices will use new formats.

 

[Dezmond]

Hope they fixed the bug that everything white appears blurry and out of focus. So annoying sometimes with photos. Happens in all camera apps I use.

 

[mazz0]

I have the same question as some others - does it convert old photos to the new format?

 

[Piggie]

As, in this world you rarely get something for nothing.

As these new formats will half the file size of an image etc.
Are the comparisons as to the quality aspect.

If a new format gave 5% or 10% over a previous one, I'd understand that, but 50% for free, seems a LOT.
[doublepost=1497346946][/doublepost]Here: http://nokiatech.github.io/heif/comparison.html

Video is way better than a gif (but you would expect that)
but Images, saving no where near 50%

 

[xmlninja]

As, in this world you rarely get something for nothing.

As these new formats will half the file size of an image etc.
Are the comparisons as to the quality aspect.

If a new format gave 5% or 10% over a previous one, I'd understand that, but 50% for free, seems a LOT.
[doublepost=1497346946][/doublepost]Here: http://nokiatech.github.io/heif/comparison.html

Video is way better than a gif (but you would expect that)
but Images, saving no where near 50%

Thats why they gave you 1tb extra for "free" on icloud - lol. i use about 230gb. reducing icloud photos with 50% would cut the 200gb limit pretty well and decrease costs for me. But more importantly, it will be easier to have complete copies of the whole library offline for off location backups.

 

[VulchR]

Anybody have any information about how HEIF compresses photo's? Reducing file sizes by 50% seems to indicate it would loose quite a lot of information (perhaps in fine details).

 

[Ryanhdd]

I just want to label my damn picts!!!! its a pITa not to be able to label my picts.

 

[iDento]

So does that mean FCPX will support HEVC, since it currently does not support that codec?

FCPX will support HEVC.

The question, when will iTunes support it?

 

[abbstrack]

Why no RAW/DNG support for photos? all I shoot is RAW now that apps like lightroom/vsco allow for it, but always find myself having to change from the default camera to an app to take a photo now.

 

[rikscha]

I'm a little concerned about the A9 chip requirement for the new image and video formats. I have an iPhone 7 and an iPad Mini 2 (thanks, Apple, for again ignoring the Mini in this year's iPad updates!) so will this update mean I can't sync my photo and video library to my iPad?

No it doesnt, the A9 is required to take pictures in the new format, not to view them.

 

[639051]

A new format! I think it may be time to try Google Pixel, at least it has a headphone jack and uses USB-C.

I've heard it is a great device, however, why the upset over a format change? HEVC and HEIF are the future for compression, it makes no sense to not want advancement there.

 

[jimbobb24]

Does anyone know more about the technical details about the new formats who has been using them? Are they still good looking? Is everyone going to adopt them instead of JPEG? If I send them to a friends computer will it be transparent to them or will they need new software to read them?

 

[kmichalec]

Is everyone going to adopt them instead of JPEG? If I send them to a friends computer will it be transparent to them or will they need new software to read them?

My question as well...

 

[j-a-x]

I'm pretty sure live photos taken with iOS11 devices will be captured differently than old live photos. HEIF/HEVC will allow for more if not all of the frames to be captured at full resolution without much additional size to the overall file. Bottom line, this will likely only be useful for new live photos.


[doublepost=1497314922][/doublepost]I really want to see a side by side comparison of the portrait mode in iOS 10 and 11 in low/med/good lighting conditions.

It does appear in "Photos" on my Mac that a regular live photo and a live photo where I changed the key frame are both 4032x3025 pixel HEIC files. From what I can see on the phone both are the same quality images. However I can't view the HEIC files on my Mac, only a preview frame in Photos. I guess I need to upgrade my Mac to High Sierra Beta now in order to work with the images I've been taking on my iPhone for the last week.
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It does appear in "Photos" on my Mac that a regular live photo and a live photo where I changed the key frame are both 4032x3025 pixel HEIC files. From what I can see on the phone both are the same quality images. However I can't view the HEIC files on my Mac, only a preview frame in Photos. I guess I need to upgrade my Mac to High Sierra Beta now in order to work with the images I've been taking on my iPhone for the last week.

Ok so I exported two photos via email. One live photo taken as is and one with a new key frame. The one with the new key frame looks blurry in comparison to the original key frame. So it seems that sadly I'm not going to use this feature.