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Hands-On Look at iOS 9 and OS X 10.11 El Capitan

flowsy said:
At least Safari stops them from autoplaying in a new background tab. I love that feature and no other browser does that on OS X.
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Actually, Opera had that feature long, looong time ago. I don't know if Opera has it anymore, I've stopped using it after they dropped Presto engine. And currently Vivaldi has that feature as well. Actually, Opera 12 has every feature Safari has, and about 1000 more :)
 
flowsy said:
At least Safari stops them from autoplaying in a new background tab. I love that feature and no other browser does that on OS X.
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Chrome does this and a lot more with extensions. I assume Firefox would too since its extensions are even better. Unless you meant out of the box.
 
/dev/toaster said:
I installed it on my 1st gen iPad mini last night and the performance was not any better than iOS 8. It's still very sluggish and very unstable. Crashed the OS twice during the first 20 minutes of use.

But yes, very common for a first build. This is why I only run first few builds on test devices.
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I used it on my Air 2.. And the performance is not quite stable, but as far as a 1st beta... it's definitely usable. Very excited about the multitasking... Been a long time coming!
 
elgrecomac said:
Am I the only one that sees Apple playing catch up with the MS Surface Pro? Side by side Multitasking....finally.
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Catch up, like Apple owns 26% of the market, and Microsoft owns...... No, Apple is not playing catch up. Tablets have become a commodity. Apple are just implementing a technology that the market has asked for. All these things are essentially the same to the layman (read most people). When one car company started putting electric wipers on their cars, did the next one get criticized for playing "catch up" when they added wipers to their new models?
 
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I don't mind the name. In fact, it is fitting that they chose a landmark inside Yosemite National Park. I think the general consensus is that this is a back-to-basics upgrade, rather than an all-new OS. So it's an evolution of Yosemite. With that in mind, would you have rather called it "Half Dome?" Didn't think so.
 
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jayducharme said:
I like the new "nightstand" mode for the Apple Watch. I wonder why there's never been anything equivalent for the iPhone.

I noticed that in El Capitan, the dots underneath active apps in the dock have been enlarged. That's a welcome visual change.
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This works in the iOS 9 beta on my iPhone 6+, but I'm pretty sure this has been available since at least iOS 8:

Built in Clock App -> World Clock Tab -> Rotate to Landscape -> Second Page -> Tap on the Timezone you want -> Tap to toggle between Analog or Digital

So there is something equivalent for the iPhone. It's just far more difficult to find in iOS than watchOS.

Personally, I've been using Alarm Clock Pro since my iPhone 3GS. It has those few extra features that I'm looking for that the built in one lacks (IE, I can show seconds, and I can get the screen a lot dimmer in that app than in the clock app.)
 
Does Aperture run on El Capitan? I have a seeding invitation, but am holding off until I know for sure that I can keep running Aperture. Does anybody here know?
 
I'm glad to see some new features, but really glad to see them focus on speed and optimization too. That's a feature that is rarely acknowledged but much appreciated in daily use. I'm glad Apple didn't go too crazy with features this year. I'm looking forward to giving the new software a whirl.
 
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autrefois said:
From what I understand from the keynote, it's not the operating system itself that takes up less space, it's just the update to iOS 9 that takes up less space, right? Which is still a big thing for people who have less storage on their devices.
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The iOS9 ecosystem offers a feature called Thinning which only installs the essential parts of an app for your particular device. If it's a 64-bit device, it won't get 32-bit code. If it's a 2x display, it won't get 3x assets. etc.
This will obviously reduce the size of installed apps.

What's not clear is whether this same technology was EARLIER used for the OS or not. If it has been used, then there'll be no change. But if it hasn't been used before, it would obviously be the sensible thing to apply it to the OS, in which case the installed OS could be quite a bit smaller because of assets and executable code that are no longer installed.
 
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Sirious said:
El Capitan is a mountain inside Yosemite National Park, so really the naming scheme is keeping in line with Leopard/Snow Leopard, Lion/Mountain Lion and now Yosemite/El Capitan.
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Not in line at all.
The previous naming scheme was a random order of "big cats". The leopard/Snow Leopard is purely an etymological link, because these 2 cats are different species, namely Genus Panthera and Genus Uncia. Same with Lion/Mountain Lion. One is the big cat in Africa, the other native to North America.

The new naming scheme is just places in California. Yes, El Capitan is inside Yosemite, but they could just as well have gone with Sequoia, meaning either the tree or the park. Seeing El Capitan is a mountain of sorts, it might be have been better just to name OS X after famous mountains. I bet Mt. Whitney will be on that list sometime.

In the end it's just a name. Hopefully El Cap will be as stable & fast as SL.
 
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jtrenthacker said:
The name is the worst. I refuse to call it El Capitan. It sounds like a punchline. I will only refer to it as 10.11.
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No
tentales said:
Not in line at all.
The previous naming scheme was a random order of "big cats". The leopard/Snow Leopard is purely an etymological link, because these 2 cats are different species, namely Genus Panthera and Genus Uncia. Same with Lion/Mountain Lion. One is the big cat in Africa, the other native to North America.

The new naming scheme is just places in California. Yes, El Capitan is inside Yosemite, but they could just as well have gone with Sequoia, meaning either the tree or the park. Seeing El Capitan is a mountain of sorts, it might be have been better just to name OS X after famous mountains. I bet Mt. Whitney will be on that list sometime.

In the end it's just a name. Hopefully El Cap will be as stable & fast as SL.
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Actually, I think I know. It's because this version isn't a major release, but more of a performance/stability update of Yosemite. So, the release is still technically Yosemite, but more refined.
 
ArtOfWarfare said:
This works in the iOS 9 beta on my iPhone 6+, but I'm pretty sure this has been available since at least iOS 8:

Built in Clock App -> World Clock Tab -> Rotate to Landscape -> Second Page -> Tap on the Timezone you want -> Tap to toggle between Analog or Digital

So there is something equivalent for the iPhone. It's just far more difficult to find in iOS than watchOS.

Personally, I've been using Alarm Clock Pro since my iPhone 3GS. It has those few extra features that I'm looking for that the built in one lacks (IE, I can show seconds, and I can get the screen a lot dimmer in that app than in the clock app.)
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I have a 6 and rotating to landscape does nothing in the clock app :S
 
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MikePLP said:
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Actually, I think I know. It's because this version isn't a major release, but more of a performance/stability update of Yosemite. So, the release is still technically Yosemite, but more refined.
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I think we all get that point, it's incremental. My point was, even though Snow Leopard was understood to be incremental to Leopard, ie. a performance improvement, the naming scheme is not in line with the current one.
 
it would be nice to see better support for people with multiple monitors at some point in time unless i have no idea of who it would be nice to span a window across two monitors
 
Haifisch said:
I don't mind the name. In fact, it is fitting that they chose a landmark inside Yosemite National Park. I think the general consensus is that this is a back-to-basics upgrade, rather than an all-new OS. So it's an evolution of Yosemite. With that in mind, would you have rather called it "Half Dome?" Didn't think so.
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I don't mind the name but Federighi's anglo pronunciation of it was like nails on a chalkboard. with a name like Federighi I thought he would've gotten it right. :)
 
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So, Apple still has no idea what to do with a 10" iPad screen other than float a few icons, adrift in a sea of background.
As they have done since the iPad1 launch and have not been able to think of anything else to enhance this since then?

Sigh :(
 
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