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Hands-On Look at iOS 9 and OS X 10.11 El Capitan

autrefois said:
From what I understand from the keynote, it's not the operating system itself that takes up less space, it's just the update to iOS 9 that takes up less space, right? Which is still a big thing for people who have less storage on their devices.
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They also mentioned a feature called App Thinning, which allows iOS to download only the base app bundles from the App Store and load additional data on a per-device basis. Many apps, especially universal apps, bundle all the images and videos to cover all devices, wasting lots of space. I don't need iPhone 5 or iPad resolution images on my iPhone 6. This could have some tremendous impact on space usage if it works like I think it works.
 
Paradoxally said:
Chrome does this and a lot more with extensions. I assume Firefox would too since its extensions are even better. Unless you meant out of the box.
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Chrome doesn't, only for separate plugins like Flash. YouTube's HTML5 videos will always start in the background. Some extensions can block tabs from loading, but it's not a good experience in my opinion. Firefox has a native feature for deferred loading of tabs, so it does this already.
 
Has anyone noticed any Continuity issues? I can't receive calls from iPhone. Missing the option in FaceTime.
 
From what I understand about the smaller size is not so much that iOS is that much smaller, you just need less free space to download the new version over the air.
 
So Glad that the main focus is on security, performance and stability. That's a good apple! Also like the extra enhancements as well. Looking forward to fall.
 
name99 said:
The iOS9 ecosystem offers a feature called Thinning which only installs the essential parts of an app for your particular device. If it's a 64-bit device, it won't get 32-bit code. If it's a 2x display, it won't get 3x assets. etc.
This will obviously reduce the size of installed apps.

What's not clear is whether this same technology was EARLIER used for the OS or not. If it has been used, then there'll be no change. But if it hasn't been used before, it would obviously be the sensible thing to apply it to the OS, in which case the installed OS could be quite a bit smaller because of assets and executable code that are no longer installed.
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KALLT said:
They also mentioned a feature called App Thinning, which allows iOS to download only the base app bundles from the App Store and load additional data on a per-device basis. Many apps, especially universal apps, bundle all the images and videos to cover all devices, wasting lots of space. I don't need iPhone 5 or iPad resolution images on my iPhone 6. This could have some tremendous impact on space usage if it works like I think it works.
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Thank you both for the additional info, I had missed that. It definitely sounds promising; I hope we get more info soon.
 
ArtOfWarfare said:
This works in the iOS 9 beta on my iPhone 6+, but I'm pretty sure this has been available since at least iOS 8:

Built in Clock App -> World Clock Tab -> Rotate to Landscape -> Second Page -> Tap on the Timezone you want -> Tap to toggle between Analog or Digital
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Nope. Doesn't work on my iPhone 6 with 8.3. Rotating to landscape does nothing, and there's no second page. So maybe they're finally including it.

Personally, I've been using Alarm Clock Pro since my iPhone 3GS.
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I've tried that one, plus about a half-dozen other "nightstand"-style apps. I haven't found one I like yet, mostly because of the display brightness. Very few have bright numbers with a black background. The usually grayish background illuminates the whole room. I was hoping Apple would do it right. (Of course, with the Watch the OLED display probably helps to eliminate the glowing background.)
 
seems remembering all these new features and how they work is the hardest part. all of them are somehow hidden controls and gestures you just have to know exist, swipe down from here if this then swipe left but only here four fingers here etc... bet most people use none of these changes.
 
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groovyd said:
seems remembering all these new features and how they work is the hardest part. all of them are somehow hidden controls and gestures you just have to know exist, swipe down from here if this then swipe left but only here four fingers here etc... bet most people use none of these changes.
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For the people that want them it won't take long to figure out and get used to. No point in keeping iPad dumbed down just because Grandma might not remember some of these gestures.
 
KentuckyApple said:
Catch up, like Apple owns 26% of the market, and Microsoft owns...... No, Apple is not playing catch up. Tablets have become a commodity. Apple are just implementing a technology that the market has asked for. All these things are essentially the same to the layman (read most people). When one car company started putting electric wipers on their cars, did the next one get criticized for playing "catch up" when they added wipers to their new models?
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Are you talking the side by side in el cap, or side by side on ios9 as apple may hold 26% of the tablet market, but microsoft have done versions of side.side since vista, and its been a component of 7 and solidified into 8/8.1 and 10. These operating systems cover a rather large market percentage.
 
jayducharme said:
I like the new "nightstand" mode for the Apple Watch. I wonder why there's never been anything equivalent for the iPhone.

I noticed that in El Capitan, the dots underneath active apps in the dock have been enlarged. That's a welcome visual change.
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not until the iphone goes to oled screens.
 
Rogifan said:
For the people that want them it won't take long to figure out and get used to. No point in keeping iPad dumbed down just because Grandma might not remember some of these gestures.
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Grandma definitely won't remember them or ever learn them to begin with. Where there is a will there is a way for sure.
 
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