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Actually, I'm usually on a train in Europe (Romania) and use the cracked windshield frame to wedge my iPad in. still rocky but I can see the countryside and we hurtle past at 15KM/hr. Amazingly, I can also take pictures and video of the scenery... kinda out of focus but what the heck - no-one will ever see my videos anyway.
Design problem. That mock up camera is so blocky the iPad will have more problem than currently when laying flat on a desk. It's like...we want your to buy a case otherwise this tablet will get distorted if you put pressure on it.
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Is it possible Apple simply sees a cost per unit benefit by over-stuffing the iPad Pro with cameras? It could be that the iPhone 11 Pro models alone weren't enough to hit some volume target with high enough confidence for business decisions and, if the rumor is true, this inclusion in the iPP could help solve that problem of confidence in hitting the minimums. I am by no means a supply chain expert and am not counting out the other good reasons other forum users are throwing out there...
Actually the months of the original Pros is 19-16 months. 512 days between the iPad Pro 2 and 3 equals 1 Year, 4 Months, and 25 Days.
First iPad Pro to second... 1 year, 8 months, and 2 days (19 months)
Second iPad Pro to third... 1 year, 4 months, and 25 days (about 16 months)
where did you get 14.5?
I get it, you desperately want a new iPad, I hope they get you one... but last I checked 16 months is closer to 18. Also the iPad Pro 9.7" was a weird update in terms of timing. But if we go by the original iPad pros 1-3 they still are quite a bit longer than 1-year... My point is WHY would Apple change that when sales are booming?... they slowed on iPads previous to the 3rd pro because too many tablets were out and people weren't buying. Apple seemed to have found a better way when updating the Pro devices as they realized not everyone upgraded each year (besides Apple fans.)
I'm not saying I don't want you to get a new Pro or Apple not to have an event... some of this just doesn't track is all, with the year and a half upgrade cycle for the 12.9" pros and the 10.5" and 11" pros... (only the 9.7" was an aberration/deterrent from the cycle) I heard it was because it was planned for 2015 but had to be delayed.
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Like I said, 14.5 to 19 months.
iPad Pro sales are probably doing well, but booming might be overstating it. iPad sales in general are doing well, but I suspect that's more because of the lower end iPads.
In any case, this is not just about my want, it's about reading the rumours. Most of the more reliable rumours are saying a new release sooner rather than later. I also think it makes sense because iPadOS is a game changer, and it would stand to reason that Apple would want to capitalize on that with new hardware.
Ironically, when I bought my discontinued 2017 iPad Pro back for cheap back in March 2019, my prediction was actually that Apple would not update their iPad Pro line until spring 2020. However, it's the pundits like Mark Gurman who are saying it will be much earlier, and I tend to trust his predictions. Ming Chi-Kuo seems to suggest a bit later might be possible, but not as late as spring 2020. And then there are the EEC filings. New iPads were filed back in July 2019 and earlier. Some of them were accounted for by the 10.2" iPad but at least two EEC filings still have no corresponding released model. Others on this forum have stated that after EEC filings happen, typically the releases come out about 4-6 months after the filing, so that would mean some time between November and January. That actually corresponds exactly with what Ming Chi-Kuo was talking about (late 2019 to early 2020 manufacturing), and the 4 month time frame corresponds with what Mark Gurman and Debby Wu said (October 2019 announcement, presumably with a November release).
I generally upgrade my computers about every 5+ years. Apple updates them often yearly.
If anything, it could be argued the timing of the original 12.9" until the update is more the aberration, as it was when Apple was still testing the waters.
This would mean they would have to make a whole new Smart Keyboard folio. Talk about keyboard fragmentation.
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I’m gonna start taking photos in public with my 12.9 just to spite people like you. Relax it’s a free countryFor the love of, please don't.
I do not want it to encourage even more selfish morons to hold these up in front of me and others.
I hope they do make a new Smart Keyboard... with backlit keyboard. Not expecting that backlight though.
I'm not sure what you mean by this. Why would Apple test the waters? I kind of side with what @Kal-037 mention. It makes sense for Apple to release both the 9.7 and 12.9 side by side back in 2015. They have been staggering the big and small iPad Pros for the past upgrades.
Perhaps, these staggering releases... is due to some behind the scenes issues. If the 11 inch isn't ready... then Apple won't release the 12.9 inch. The last release we finally received both models on the same day... I think it helps with sales.
Laptops/desktops are different when it comes to the iPads. People rely more heavily on laptops/desktops than iPads. That's why Apple updates them more frequently than iPads. It doesn't benefit Apple much to upgrade the iPad Pro this year... regardless of iPadOS. I understand, the argument that Apple should release new hardware for this new software. But as I've said in previous comments... this new hardware is pretty darn good as it stands with the new software.
I know you are anxious for the 6GB Ram, I get it.... it's for longevity. The iPad is such a unique device... they try to sell to the lower end and high end from iPad Mini, iPad, iPad Air and iPad Pros. And as you noted.... if lower end are selling at a faster pace than the higher end. Why would Apple upgrade the higher end this year? Just after it upgraded at this time last year.
Mine, and apparently millions of others, look and work fine with no signs of bending, after a year or more of use. Mine in particular doesn’t even have a case and it also fell a few times. If millions of devices are sold and works flawlessly probably a dozens of accounts of bended devices are not to be taken so seriously, doing so it’s nothing but the equivalent of not taking flights because once in a while one falls.
It was Apple’s first 12.9” and first Pro iPad.
I use my iPad Pro 90% of the time and my MacBook 10% of the time.
Apple upgraded both the high end and low end last year. I expect the same this year. The high end especially since iPadOS biggest benefits are actually at the high end.
I have had iPads since it was released. How many pictures did I take? Maybe five! OLED displays, faster cpu than a phone would be good!
Agreed! I’ve been using mine regularly.. travel with mine. Haven’t had any issues with it bending. If anything, I do understand the trepidation behind it. Spending that kind of money, it’s understandable to be concern.
But imo, I think it’s been overblown.
Well, yeah. But majority of users ratios would be different... if you did a poll. I guarantee that laptop/desktop would have more usage compared to the iPad. And I’m the one that uses their iPad more than my iMac, but I do understand that as a whole... society will favor their laptop/desktop.
Yes, but it’s different from Pros... you of all people would understand it. And I know I’m not in the market for one, so perhaps my perspective is different from yours. You are expecting it because you want it to happen. I’m indifferent to it. But I know from Apple history... they don’t upgrade iPad Pros at a 12-month cycle. Perhaps, it changes this year.. but I don’t expect it.
And iPadOS is working perfectly fine on my 2018 iPP... I’m able to use Multi-Window while Multitasking perfectly fine.... without any hiccups. I think you are selling the 2018 iPP models short.
the 2018 is a beast in the hardware department really not fussed over a camera upgrade be happy with a superior structure upgrade
Nah. My wife has no interest in getting a laptop. She wants my iPad Pro.
My buddy, a web designer, sold his MacBook Pro and just uses his iPad Pro on the road. iMac at home.
Yeah lots of people have desktops, but if they have one there is much less incentive to get a laptop.
No. You guys keep saying this but ignore the fact that, as mentioned, my original prediction was actually spring 2020. However, it’s the Apple analysts that are saying fall/winter 2019.
Works perfectly fine on my 2017 iPad Pro too. No hiccups. That’s not much of an argument.
Not a big surprise though, as it actually benches faster than my 2017 MacBook, and faster than the current MacBook Air.
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Obviously, there are plenty of people who are using their iPad more than their laptop/desktop. But I’m just speaking on the majority. There are majority of users who favor a laptop over a iPad... that’s all I’m saying.
I get there are predictions out there. I’m just going on Apple track record. History say that Apple does not follow a 12-month cycle for iPad Pros.
And there’s no argument to be had. I’m just speaking on the fact you are praising this iPadOS and you feel that it’s beneficial to not yet announced iPP, when it’s running smoothly on existing iPP.
1. I’m not convinced that is true.
2. Even if it were true that is not a good argument against a new iPad Pro release.
Apple had NO track record of selling 10.2” iPads. Yet the analysts predicted it would be released this year. Guess what happened?
No. What I’m saying is that iPadOS, and the apps out and coming out making use of that, is a great milestone to sell more iPad Pros. However people generally prefer to purchase new ones, not one year old ones (unless they are heavily discounted), even if the release cycle is say 1 year and 5 months.
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Wait a min. Seriously? Not a good argument against a new iPad Pro release. You just admitted to yourself... Apple updates laptops often yearly, obviously there’s a reason for it.
I mean, there’s plenty of post saying how iPad is not a laptop replacement (which I’m against). Even Apple have created an ad-campaign surrounding the iPad is a Computer.
Don’t get me wrong, the iPad Pro is making huge strides. But the argument I’m trying to portray... Majority of people (not you or the ones you know) tend to prioritize laptops over iPads due to its mature OS.
Yes, Apple released a new display size that previously didn’t exist. I’m just hoping that these analysts are right... because you are so ready to throw your wallet at Apple.
So, I decided to actually look this up.
October 18, 2010: Today in Apple history: iPad sales overtake Macs
Six months after the iPad debuts, Steve Jobs reveals that Apple’s tablet is already outselling Macs.
During the company’s fourth-quarter earnings call, Jobs says Apple sold 4.19 million iPads during the previous three months, compared with 3.89 million Macs.
April 30, 2019: iPhone and Mac sales down, iPad and services way up
Mac sales: $5.5 billion
iPad sales: $4.9 billion
Note that that "Mac" means all Macs combined including desktops and laptops, whereas "iPad" means, well..., iPad.
Thus, it would seem that iPad sales outsell Mac laptops.
October 30, 2018: Apple says the iPad is outselling every laptop on the market
CEO Tim Cook said at an event in New York on Tuesday that Apple has now sold more than 400 million iPads since the product’s introduction in 2010. He displayed a chart showing that Apple sold 44.2 million iPads in the past four quarters, topping notebook sales from HP, Lenovo, Dell and a handful of the other top computer makers.
“What you might not know is we’ve sold more iPads in the last year than the entire notebook lineup of all of the biggest notebook manufacturers,” Cook said at the event, which was focused on a refresh of the iPad .
Apple sold 18.3 million Macs in the past four quarters, placing its own computer brand in the middle of the chart, had it been included.
