It's perfectly fine to have difference in opinions, but it's also wrong to spread false information about Google. Maybe you are just uninformed, but that's why some of us are trying to steer you to the correct information. That's all.
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I understand Google’s business model just fine. I’m certainly not going to be looking to you for more information on that. Appreciate your concern though.
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Yes, it’s anonymous, but they are still selling your data. Google would not have a business without advertising and their users’ personal data. This is the reason they exist.
Apparently you do not, no offense. And you won't have to look just for me to correct you, as others have pointed out the cold hard facts to you several times, in numerous threads.
Reread/refer to @kdarling post, which states Google's stance on user data. And to your surprise, you might learn that Apple sells advertisement. So you might as well call Apple the richest advertising company
Apparently you do not, no offense. And you won't have to look just for me to correct you, as others have pointed out the cold hard facts to you several times, in numerous threads.
Reread/refer to @kdarling post, which states Google's stance on user data. And to your surprise, you might learn that Apple sells advertisement. So you might as well call Apple the richest advertising company
If Apple made 95% of their revenue from advertising, I just might.
Google is changing and even more devices have access to their Beta, and more devices will get the update day one, that the reason for what their doing now. And the game will change more once Samsung gets involved.
Google doesn’t sell data, they sell ad space. There is a huge difference.
Out of curiosity, do you acknowledge that Apple sells advertisements based on the data it collects from it's users? Im really curious about this, as it seems you refer to Google as "the advertisement company", yet seem to deny that Apple does the same with it's users, except for some big differences. Apple will not let you opt out of this, and you cannot view all of the data it collects from all of it's users, regardless of turning of personalized Apple ads.
If this was reversed, I'm sure you would be going on and on about it. But since it's not, I wonder why you never mention anything about this?
So you might as well call Apple the richest advertising company
We might, but that would be absurd.
83% of Google's revenues come from advertising. For Apple, the number is so small they don't break it out as a separate category; it's less than 6%.
That's a significant difference, and any whataboutism of "well, Apple collects data, too!" is therefore an intellectually dishonest argument.
They do, they sell user data. It’s just not specific, it’s anonymous. Without your data, they don’t exist.
The 83% is an interesting number to me as it shows Google is becoming a more diverse company.
My point is that Apple sells ads from it's collected user data. Regardless of how much either company makes, is irrelevant. My point still stands correct. Apple sells ads based off the data they collect from it's users, whether they opt out or not.
I’ll acknowledge it, but to say it’s on the same level as Google is laughable. Google doesn’t exist without its users’ data and advertising.
Hardware, cloud services (paid Google Apps, Google Cloud Platform, etc.), subscriptions (YouTube Red, etc.).
You can't say Apple didn't try with things like iBeacon to track and deliver ads but failed.
No, it's very relevant. It's a huge difference whether a company has consistently made the bulk of its revenues from hardware sales, or whether it has done so through advertising sales. In the latter case, it has a huge motivation to collect data in order to make ad sales more valuable. In the former case, it can still collect data, but not for the same motivation.
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What data does Apple collect from iBeacon?
Let me ask you a question. You are pretty much saying that I'm wrong, and that it's very relevant to how much each company makes. How can this be relevant to the point that I made in a discussion with another member?
"Apple sells ads based off the data they collect from it's users, whether they opt out or not."
How can you to tell me what is relevant to my own statement, especially when I never brought up finances?
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That makes sense. I wonder if they're going to be able to become less reliant on ads than Apple is with the iPhone. The race is on.
What is the number for the percent of iPhone to total Apple revenue anyway?
And the rest is services? Are you saying services matter more to Apple’s bottom line than Macs and iPads combined?
15% services, 6% other. (For example, Apple Watch, AirPods, etc. are all "Other".) So no, not entirely. But services have been growing significantly.
Four years ago in the same quarter, "iTunes/Software/Services" was 7.6%. Some of that has been regrouped with iPod and Accessories into the new "Other", so I'm guessing Services at the time was about 5%.
Hundreds of Apple engineers, other companies simply copied them. And no, they don't need me on board as I'm not a hardware engineer. On the other hand, Apple, as well as other companies, gather feedback on many fronts, including forums like this. And what I wrote previously, might be taken as feedback too.
The same applies for the weird decision of the dozen or so Apple designers ("the best in the world who agree it's the best way to move ahead") to implement an awkwardly protruding camera on iPad Pro. I can't resist the feeling that if I accidentally moved the thing over some edge at certain speed, it would rip the camera out.
When have you ever seen this be the case?
Seems like wild presumptions and personal opinion.
Which is fine, except you are presenting them as fact.