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Its freaking criminal that none of them even asked about the IR. Consumer Journalism is dead, long live talking points and double speak...... :(
 
What business do you run anyway? Drug cartel in a banana republic in South America? Because then I can see where DVDs might be cheap enough that you can't afford a USB flash drives.

A stack of 100 DVDs I can get for eighteen dollars. A stack of 50 CDs for about eleven. Makes them pretty cheap. And I work in IT, so it comes in handy when I burn thirty RAR files containing a virtual machine. No drug cartel!

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;) The question many Apple fanboys may wish to ask themselves, if a retina screen is worth $600 to them?

Easy answer: no. Been a Mac user since 1984. This is way too expensive.

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Frankly, that is just absurd.

There are these curious little devices in circulation called USB flash drives. They typically hold far, far more data than any optical media, are far more durable, easier to transport, and - gasp - work on any computer with a USB port. You should check them out! You could be the revolution your colleagues are waiting for...

Wow. Nobody bothers to read the original posts. Try that, and it may broaden your limited viewpoint. Flash drives also get expensive. Easier to buy discs in bulk, Sherlock. And far cheaper.

Dimwit.
 
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If this 13 in rMBP can edit and color video smoothly, I might consider buying it. Sad that I'm underwhelmed with the specs and overwhelmed with the price (in a bad way). I guess I'm gonna have to wait for reviews then before considering this :(
 
Of all of the complaints about the rMBP, this is by far the most absurd. Optical drives take up a lot of internal space, and their prevalence is vastly dwindling.

Agree. Such drives have pretty much gone the way of the dinosaurs, and I seriously doubt that Apple is going to compromise the designs of their new products because a few people in a few clunky, niche areas still use CDs for file transfers. As history shows, the world didn't end when Apple discontinued support for 3.5" floppies. Anyways, the option for an external peripheral is a good option until CDs are finally phased out for good.
 
Pre-ordered a Surface? So now you'll spend even more money catching up on apps, or are you a person who did not spend any money on apps?

Good luck with the MSFT app store.

I just wanted MS Office on the tablet, that's all I need so that I don't have to carry around my laptop all day.

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Then don't buy it.

I surely won't - I already have the 15" rMBP
 
The small factor is the thing. It means I have a very powerful laptop with a lot of utility - the same utility I can find in any other laptop. Not absurd at all. Please tell me how their use is "dwindling." I see discs as the MOST common means of passing (large file sized) information in my business. Until the bulk of the world catches on to your minority opinion, discs are still going to be very relevant.

The only place discs are even remotely competitive is if you keep falling in the narrow range of than 1GB and less than 4.5GB. Otherwise cloud or USB storage are faster and more effective.

Also, I don't know why you think discs are so common. I use discs about 2 or 3 times a year for niche software installs. Everything else is web, network or USB.
 
I can't understand why two configurations of the 13" rMBP are offered on the Apple store when the only difference appears to be the size of the SSD (128GB vs 256GB) with the SSD on the first configuration upgradeable to 256, 512 or 768GB and the SSD on the second configuration upgradeable to 512 or 768GB.

Am I missing something?
 
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@Renzatic:

Not interested in the 15" as the 13" size is "just right."

And not interested in the Air because it doesn't have the memory I want. I consider my laptop my desk with lots of drawers, and I would like to have a decent amount of items in the HD without having to access an external.

Okay. I had this long post written out extolling the virtues of a NAS setup with an MBA, thinking that Apple didn't sell Macbooks with a regular magnetic drive anymore...

...then I checked out the Apple page. They've still got the older, thicker Pro line. A 13" dualie Core i5 with 4GB ram and a 750GB HDD for $1300 is perfect for you. No, it's not the fastest, and it's defintely not the thinnest, but it's still more than enough machine for what you'll be using it for.

You can always sell it off next year and upgrade to the Retina Pros if you really want the high res display. I have a feeling they'll be a little cheaper then too, because I'm thinking Apple will be phasing out the old Pro line and going exclusively Retina by then.
 
Well, I'm sure I'll be attacked for this, but I'm gonna say it anyway:

Tiny harddrive, barely enough RAM (and not upgradable to the "enough" level), no dedicated graphics, only dual-core processors. It certainly isn't bad, but Apple just took the "pro" out of the 13" line. And come on - it's freaking expensive. If you upgrade the SSD to 512gb and get an i7 (still dual-core - WTF?) processor, it's only 99$ cheaper than the mid-level 15" rMBP, which packs a heck of a lot more power. What gives???

the 13" is NOT a pro device in my opinion. It's more like a beefed-up and slightly heavier Macbook Air. For that, it just costs way too much.

I wrote a nice long post... and than i found Yours. Exactly what im thinking :) SPOT ON
 
Who is responsible in Apple for currency convertion? rMBP 13 in States costs 1699$, in Europe its €1799 which equals ~2335$.

Sorry but no thank you.
 
Who is responsible in Apple for currency convertion? rMBP 13 in States costs 1699$, in Europe its €1799 which equals ~2335$.

Sorry but no thank you.


Price in US is without tax, price in EU is with tax.

Example for Italy price:

- MBPr 13'': € 1800 -> without taxes = €1400 (21% in Italy)

Now € 1400 is about $1800.

Price in US is $1700 (without taxes)...so difference is about €77 ($100)....maybe import/export tax?

Currency conversion is right.

About tax, ask to your government.
 
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Price in US is without tax, price in EU is with tax.

Example for Italy price:

- MBPr 13'': € 1800 -> without taxes = €1400 (21% in Italy)

Now € 1400 is about $1800.

Price in US is $1700 (without taxes)...so difference is about €77 ($100)....maybe import/export tax?

Currency conversion is right.

About tax, ask to your government.

But in Hong Kong, its a totally different ball game :D
 
With the cheap memory prices, Im pissed that they cant squeeze more than 8 GB on that chip. 16 GB is the requirements in my opinion for the machine in a work enviroment. My Air is constantly running out of ram with dual citrix sessions, word, itunes and spotify.

Damn, you want the machine to be good for at least a couple of years, not just until next years refresh!

edit: also HD 4000? With more Mac games on Steam, GOG.com launching a Mac store... Seems like they are moving in the wrong direction.
 
I can't understand why two configurations of the 13" rMBP are offered on the Apple store when the only difference appears to be the size of the SSD (128GB vs 256GB) with the SSD on the first configuration upgradeable to 256, 512 or 768GB and the SSD on the second configuration upgradeable to 512 or 768GB.

Am I missing something?

Seems they always offer 2 versions for 3rd party stores to stock.

Your right this time they are very similar.
 
I like the iPad Mini (a lot - just sold my normal iPad 3rd gen because it was way too heavy for my taste) - but the price is a no-go for now. Plus I already pre-ordered a Surface anyway.

You better now what the RT bit in the new Surface means - I hope you are fine with no option to install your own apps apart from the ones which are available in the appstore ....

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The only place discs are even remotely competitive is if you keep falling in the narrow range of than 1GB and less than 4.5GB. Otherwise cloud or USB storage are faster and more effective.

Also, I don't know why you think discs are so common. I use discs about 2 or 3 times a year for niche software installs. Everything else is web, network or USB.

Considering that Mac is all about music / video editing I don't quite understand the removal of the drive - although to be fair - fine for the laptops - but no optical in a workstation like the iMac ? Don't get it ...

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Wow. Nobody bothers to read the original posts. Try that, and it may broaden your limited viewpoint. Flash drives also get expensive. Easier to buy discs in bulk, Sherlock. And far cheaper.

Dimwit.

You are right ... I bought a 100 disc DVD spindle for £5.99 including tax (what's that - $9.50 ?)

That is effectively half a TB of data possible - good luck finding a flash drive that price ...
 
8GB max is unfortunate

Too bad! The 8GB kills it for me as photographer and the 15" is too big for lugging it around on jobs :(
 
No way

double the processing speed, far more I/O, bigger HD options

I think the real question is does is warrant the price tag? the difference between the 15PRO and retina models pricing is reasonable but the 500+ between the standard 13 and the retina is a joke for what you get.
 
The only place discs are even remotely competitive is if you keep falling in the narrow range of than 1GB and less than 4.5GB. Otherwise cloud or USB storage are faster and more effective.

Also, I don't know why you think discs are so common. I use discs about 2 or 3 times a year for niche software installs. Everything else is web, network or USB.

Didn't say they were common...read my posts. I said I use them a lot. And I explained why.

Another troll....
 
No discrete Videocard. I really wonder how the 2560 x 1600 screen runs on the Intel HD4000 graphics. Now it's pretty much impossible to do gaming on this laptop. not that I care. but I think 90% of the potential customers do care because the 13 inch was the best selling MacBook. I think it's mostly kids and students buying 13 inches.

for a professional this computer is pretty much useless.

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Too bad! The 8GB kills it for me as photographer and the 15" is too big for lugging it around on jobs :(

too big? I carry a 17 inch around haha!
 
Tell me, have you ever used a 30" ACD connected to a MacBook since the switch to MiniDisplay Port in 2008 ? Because I've not had any issues with running 2560x1600 pixels on integrated graphics before...

you had a point.
my 2010 mbp has no issue running on ACD 27" 2560x1600 together with my main screen.
 
A stack of 100 DVDs I can get for eighteen dollars. A stack of 50 CDs for about eleven. Makes them pretty cheap. And I work in IT, so it comes in handy when I burn thirty RAR files containing a virtual machine. No drug cartel!

Hum, those CDs and DVDs are 1 time use only, unless you multi-session them...

And sorry, USB flash drives are like 2$. And you can re-use them over and over again.

And if you are in IT and your company doesn't allow USB flash drives, use ... *gasp*... the corporate network to transfer files around.

Anyway, external DVD drives exist. Being in IT you should know.
 
I think it's mostly kids and students buying 13 inches.

for a professional this computer is pretty much useless.

Not true. You might see them very often at school/uni but there's a lot of other folks out there (also pro's; it just depends on what you do for a living) who swear with a 13" format. It's a very convenient size if you need to carry it with you. Not too big and not too small. It attracks a much broader public than just a bunch of spoiled kids and students.

Just like the general opinion over here, I'm very disappointed in the 13" rMBP.
Everything has been said already. It's just too much $$ for what you get. Better cough up a few buck more and buy the 15" rMBP base. It's a much better price/specs ration than the 13".

I feel sorry for the guinea pigs cq victims who'll buy the 13" model.
 
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