I would love to buy one of these for my class work. The smaller the better for carrying it around, but I dont want an air.
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Hands On with Apple's New 13-Inch Retina MacBook Pro
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I don't understand the pricing logic behind this
Call me naive, but I have been waiting for this Macbook for quite some time now, as the 15' rMBP was too expensive. BUT I am completely lost on why they decided to price it like this.
It comes with an i5 processor and 128 gb SSD. If you want to upgrade to an i7 and to a 256 gb ssd it will set you back another $500 (200 for i7 + 300 for SSD) which leaves the price at 2199...Wait what?!? Yep you read that correctly, same price as a 15' rMBP.
So for the same price you get a smaller screen (although it weighs less). Is anyone else perplexed by this, or is it just me?
Call me naive, but I have been waiting for this Macbook for quite some time now, as the 15' rMBP was too expensive. BUT I am completely lost on why they decided to price it like this.
It comes with an i5 processor and 128 gb SSD. If you want to upgrade to an i7 and to a 256 gb ssd it will set you back another $500 (200 for i7 + 300 for SSD) which leaves the price at 2199...Wait what?!? Yep you read that correctly, same price as a 15' rMBP.
So for the same price you get a smaller screen (although it weighs less). Is anyone else perplexed by this, or is it just me?
I'm with you. I've been waiting for the 13" for a long time now. As soon as I did the basic bump for 256GB and an i7 it was the same exact price as the 15" with the same flash and memory, only half the cores and no discrete graphics. The base price is probably ok, but the upgrade price on the i7 and the 128GB of flash is a joke.
Then explain how you got your information so wrong...
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Most of my customers do not use external optical drives. They have a desktop or a laptop with a built-in drive. And just by sheer value, I can get MUCH more storage value out of a disc than with any flash drive (even at two dollars). I hand out discs with presentations and documents (even video and virtual machines sometimes) and I don't expect to get the disc back. It is much cheaper and much, much more convenient to use discs. I use the discs for customers, not in the corporate network environment.
Hey...maybe if I did work for that drug cartel I would have the budget to hand out multitudinous flash drives...
This is just a trick from Apple to raise the prices of both notebook lines, Air ánd MBP. The more I think about it, the more I get the feeling that Apple keeps this insane pricing of the rMBP intact and only upgrades the internals during each rMBP revision. It would be very unlikely that they'll just drop the price with a couple of hundred bucks (on par with the current MBPs) next year while upgrading the internals as well. It wouldn't make sense at all.
Besides, next year, it might be the Air's turn and they might do something 'big' with the Airs (ie add retina or use a different body) while still offering the 'older' Airs so they can justify a higher price for the new Airs. The 'new' Airs will fit the price gap left by the standard MBPs which have been disappeared by then.
The older Airs will phase out as well resulting in a price shift of their entire notebook line. This way people get used to the increased prices more easily and Apple laughs at us.
Presentations and documents get e-mailed. Virtual machines are hosted in our own private "cloud" infrastructure. And you using an external optical drive doesn't mean the discs it creates can't be read by an internal one.
No one is asking all your customers, or even yourself, to go optical-driveless. But just know that your "issues" are total non-issues.
I didn't. And you called me a troll.
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And this just isn't true for most files less than 1GB. Use cloud storage. Or email. Or youtube if you have video content.
Even if most of your customers have old laptops and DVD drives, most of the world has already moved to phones and ipads.
I'm a shareholder but I'm not worried.
1) Apple's overdue for a correction
2) I've never obsessed over short term fluctuations
As far as the keynote? That was only one of many.
Went to see the rMBP today at a retail store. Looks nice. Noticeably heavier than my 13 MBA. The display looks good and clear. I like being able to run it with the smallest text. I'm not sure what the effective resolution is at that mode. I couldn't tell it it was native, non doubled, at that point. I didn't notice any performance issues moving windows around. Everything seemed smooth.
I was seriously considering upgrading to it. I have a base brand new MBA 13 w 4GB ram and 128gb SSD. Costs $1200.
The base rMBP has 8GB ram and 128GB SSD. I don't need the faster processor. Costs $1700. That's a $500 price increase for 4GB additional ram that costs $100 on the MBA and the retina display.
That's $400 extra for the nicer display. Sure the processor gets bumped from a 1.8ghz i5 to a 2.5ghz, but I don't really need it. You get another thunderbolt port, but I don't really need that either.
I had hoped for a $200 addon for retina.
Having to resell and buy new again, would cost me even more, at least $600-700. I don't think the retina display is that important to me. I value the lower weight and thinner palm area more. So after some thought, I think I'll pass for now.
I was seriously considering upgrading to it. I have a base brand new MBA 13 w 4GB ram and 128gb SSD. Costs $1200.
The base rMBP has 8GB ram and 128GB SSD. I don't need the faster processor. Costs $1700. That's a $500 price increase for 4GB additional ram that costs $100 on the MBA and the retina display.
That's $400 extra for the nicer display. Sure the processor gets bumped from a 1.8ghz i5 to a 2.5ghz, but I don't really need it. You get another thunderbolt port, but I don't really need that either.
I had hoped for a $200 addon for retina.
Having to resell and buy new again, would cost me even more, at least $600-700. I don't think the retina display is that important to me. I value the lower weight and thinner palm area more. So after some thought, I think I'll pass for now.
Why does your IT department even use CDs/DVDs? I have worked in my share of corporate offices and almost all of anything done is through the network.Although recent, at the place I work at our IT department has read only USB keys for certain software flashes.
Too expensive? I can grab a 8GB mini usb key for less than 10$. No doubt DVD's are still needed in some cases but I can guarantee you that you would be completely fine without a dvd drive.
Heck I feel I am falling behind by still needing to use USB keys. If my upload speed at home wasnt so slow I would be in the clouds.
If someone handed me a disc with a presentation on it, I would look at my iPad that I had been using to take notes, I would kindly hand it back, and ask them to e-mail it to me.
I cannot remember when the last time I was not able to get a file via e-mail or some sort of cloud sharing.
I still chuckle at the number of tech companies who still have the USB flash drives as their "take-aways" at trade shows.
Am I the only one who finds it wasteful when someone burns a file of less than 100 mb on a disc and then hands it to me? I know discs are cheap, but isn't that exactly the problem? You hand them out like you are dispensing sweets, people view them once, and them either throw them away or throw them in a corner, never to be seen or used again.
When my school issued me a laptop, the first thing I did was to remove the cd-drive (it was detachable) and leave it on my desk. You won't believe how much lighter it feels, plus the huge gaping hole I saw. In my 2 years in the school, I have played a cd exactly once - to play an audio recording for a listening comprehension practice. Subsequently, I just ripped the contents and played them directly from my ipad.
I, for one, am not sorry to see the cd-drive go.
When my school issued me a laptop, the first thing I did was to remove the cd-drive (it was detachable) and leave it on my desk. You won't believe how much lighter it feels, plus the huge gaping hole I saw. In my 2 years in the school, I have played a cd exactly once - to play an audio recording for a listening comprehension practice. Subsequently, I just ripped the contents and played them directly from my ipad.
I, for one, am not sorry to see the cd-drive go.
Am I the only one who finds it wasteful when someone burns a file of less than 100 mb on a disc and then hands it to me? I know discs are cheap, but isn't that exactly the problem? You hand them out like you are dispensing sweets, people view them once, and them either throw them away or throw them in a corner, never to be seen or used again.
When my school issued me a laptop, the first thing I did was to remove the cd-drive (it was detachable) and leave it on my desk. You won't believe how much lighter it feels, plus the huge gaping hole I saw. In my 2 years in the school, I have played a cd exactly once - to play an audio recording for a listening comprehension practice. Subsequently, I just ripped the contents and played them directly from my ipad.
I, for one, am not sorry to see the cd-drive go.
Even though it is cheap it always feels odd burning hardly any data to a 4.7gb disc.
Another very intelligent visibility decision on Apple's part!
Of course, I'm speaking as someone born in 1948, someone who doesn't have quite the in-close focus he used to have.
Linked to on Daring Fireball comparing reactions to the 2012 MBP & to the 2016 MBP
http://daringfireball.net/linked/2016/11/07/new-mbp
http://daringfireball.net/linked/2016/11/07/new-mbp
I completely agree.
The increase in the processor you will not feel. but the increase in memory - yes.