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Assuming the T2 chip allows you to run the OS from an external drive. (Edit), Scratch that, there seems to be ways around the T2 if needed for this https://www.imore.com/no-apples-not-locking-you-out-linux-macs-t2-chip.

Someone on the iFixit mac mini teardown site claimed you might not be able to boot the machine in the event the flash drive failed. Could you still cmd R into the recovery screen if that happened to change the security settings to allow external boot? He claims you couldn't, that it would require a logic board replacement at that point. The procedure in the imore article assumes the flash is still working, right. Hard to believe Apple would allow the failed flash drive scenario to disable the machine, though. Would like to put that to rest before I bought the mini.
 
Someone on the iFixit mac mini teardown site claimed you might not be able to boot the machine in the event the flash drive failed. Could you still cmd R into the recovery screen if that happened to change the security settings to allow external boot? He claims you couldn't, that it would require a logic board replacement at that point. The procedure in the imore article assumes the flash is still working, right. Hard to believe Apple would allow the failed flash drive scenario to disable the machine, though. Would like to put that to rest before I bought the mini.

If so, welcome to the new world of T2 chip 'security' that we never asked for. In 30+ years of owning Macs, I can count the number of times my desktop computer has been compromised by a nefarious entity on, let's see ... zero fingers.
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You forgot your second paragraph about how if Steve was alive...

Oh lord, you're defending the guy who chooses his computer based on the color? So you're one of them? Its starting to feel like invasion of the body snatchers ... with real Mac users being replaced by people who are looking for a 'fashion statement' rather than a tool for work.
 
Glad they finally updated it, but now that Apple has effectively decommissioned Server, I still have only limited use for them. Ordered a few for our conference rooms, and considering upgrading our Kerio server (but lately they seem to be playing the same slow-deliberate-death game Apple did with OSX server so maybe not).
 
If so, welcome to the new world of T2 chip 'security' that we never asked for. In 30+ years of owning Macs, I can count the number of times my desktop computer has been compromised by a nefarious entity on, let's see ... zero fingers.
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Oh lord, you're defending the guy who chooses his computer based on the color? So you're one of them? Its starting to feel like invasion of the body snatchers ... with real Mac users being replaced by people who are looking for a 'fashion statement' rather than a tool for work.

+A Billion to everything you wrote. Also, it's so transparent that the T2 Chip is there so going forward no one will be able to boot a Hackintosh, because MacOS will check with the T2 chip to start up, I mean 'be secured'.
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A hex-core desktop processor runs hotter than a dual-core mobile processor.

So you're telling me the wealthiest company on earth with $400 billion in the bank couldn't figure out a cooling solution? If you believe that, then you'll be interested in this bridge I have for sale... you'll be able to go from Brooklyn to Manhattan in no time.
 
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There's no reason except ineptness, poor design, and greed for the Mac Mini to not be user upgradeable. Period.

Prediction: After slow sales, Apple will eventually discontinue this if not get out of the modular desktop or pro market completely. They just don't care enough nor do they want to listen to real desktop or pro users. I hope I'm wrong, but it seems as if Apple is incurably infected with the iPhone thinness, lightness, shiny things disease. My near 10 year old Cheese Grater Pro is still a more capable machine than this on several levels.

There's a bigger reason. It's $$$. Everyone but the most loyal of cult followers realizes that already.
 
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I didn't know.

We still have ours and it still works! The graphics card went out, but it was easy to replace.

The problem is it's too slow for most anything and takes up space (more so the 17" Apple Studio Display--an absolutely gorgeous translucent CRT monitor). My parents were trying to get it onto eBay and in fact may have sold it by now without telling me (it's happened before), but I haven't wanted to part with it. Such a gorgeous machine.

Well, not having a fan certainly didn't help. I don't understand Apple's obsession with having everything run silent... it's simply not possible. Hell, even the computers on ST: TNG hummed... and they were in the 24th century!
 
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+A Billion to everything you wrote. Also, it's so transparent that the T2 Chip is there so going forward no one will be able to boot a Hackintosh, because MacOS will check with the T2 chip to start up, I mean 'be secured'.
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So you're telling me the wealthiest company on earth with $400 billion in the bank couldn't figure out a cooling solution? If you believe that, then you'll be interested in this bridge I have for sale... you'll be able to from Brooklyn to Manhattan in no time.

Yep, the writing is on the wall. They already did it with the iPhone when some repairs rendered them inoperable. Apple got caught up and they put in a "fix". That was just a stop gap till they get their "security" in. Now I'm starting to believe it's also the reason why Tim Cook is harping about security so much. Just to sell an excuse to put these chips into everything and render self repair/upgrades completely impossible.
 
Thanks for the review. I am still hungry though. I haven't seen any reviews yet towards the use-case of Mac mini as a media-center to play 4K ripped & HDR content. I'm getting mine on Friday so would be nice to have some info on that.
 
So you're telling me the wealthiest company on earth with $400 billion in the bank couldn't figure out a cooling solution?
Sure they could, but it would require a taller form factor with more airflow. Hence I referenced Apple's decision to keep the same form factor.
 
Sounds a bit meh as an 'upgrade' to my current Mini.
- i3 vs old i7... guessing it's still significantly faster but the same price used to get you an i5 of the day.
- No HD upgrades is a bit of a killer as mine has dual SSDs. I'm sure this SSD's much faster than mine (along with the bus...etc) but HD speed hasn't really been an issue for me.
- GPU! Sounds like the graphics are greatly improved and you can use an external GPU now. Not bad. Expensive though!!! While gaming isn't my thing, I think if I wanted faster graphics, I'd buy a cheap PC with a mid-range GPU.

Overall, yet another disappointing Apple desktop that I won't be purchasing.
 
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Look$ cute, like every other Mac product$ nowaday$ that are good for surfing the web.

With no SD card slot I won't be able to load my images into the computer (I'm a photographer) and with only two USB ports I'll be able to connect the mouse and the keyboard. Connecting anything else would be impossible as I do not own any other Apple products so Thunderbolt connectors are useless for me. Unless of course I get an SD card reader and connectors to expand the USB slots. And a desktop with 8GB RAM and 128GB of storage is a freaking joke in 2018. Sure you could upgrade those... if you're rich and can make it rain.

Is it worth upgrading? Nope!
I'll just keep using my Mac Mini 2012 and upgrade to a Windows computer later on. Apple lost me.
 
I have an older 5k monitor that should work, but it uses the hack of using TWO mini displayport cables. Unfortunately, the Mac Mini only supports a single 5k monitor... so I'm now using two 4ks.
I wonder when these apparent vanilla USB-C (non-TB3) 5K displays will arrive?
Apple said on the recent keynote that the new iPads can "even connect to a 5K display at 60Hz". But given no vanilla USB-C 5K's exist, how can they possibly make that claim??
 
Sure they could, but it would require a taller form factor with more airflow. Hence I referenced Apple's decision to keep the same form factor.

I wonder why they haven't considered reviving the G4 cube form factor. The cooling abilities alone would be amazing.
 
I am on the fence on getting the i5 model to replace my 2007 iMac. Kinda expensive for what you get, but the new Mac Mini would be a huge improvement on my old rig that has held up for the last 11 years. Right now it takes over 3 minutes to open iTunes.
 
I swapped out my 2012 i7 for the i5 256gb over the weekend. Seeing the benchmarks for the i7 I didn't think it justified an extra $200. Those extra 2 cores make a huge difference even without hyper-threading. I am hoping this thing will sit quietly in its spot and not trouble me until 2024. I may treat it to a GPU in 2020 if it behaves itself.

Is it faster than the 2012? I have a 2012 2.6 GHz Intel Core i7 with 16GB mem and a Fusion drive.
 
Well, not having a fan certainly didn't help. I don't understand Apple's obsession with having everything run silent... it's simply not possible. Hell, even the computers on ST: TNG hummed... and they were in the 24th century!

I think that was true back then, but nowadays it's possible to be silent. I've owned the Mac Pro 2013 (trash can), and that thing is scarily and beautifully silent. Consequently, the Blackmagic eGPU which uses the same concept of unified heatsink and large fan, also runs silent.

What I don't understand is Apple's obsession with thinness while trading off cooling capacity which in turn makes for turbo jet noise. Prime example of this is the MBPs, SO ANNOYINGLY NOISY. Fan ramps up extremely easily and it's so annoying.
 
Played with one at the Apple Store. Remarkably fast, a very noticeable performance bump in ordinary, daily jobs. I think the SSD prices are pretty outragous - with USB C bandwidth, it would make sense to get the base i7 with 256GB internal; then drop $~300 to bump it to 32 GB SoDIMM and then add an external SSD/HDD.

USB C has a bandwidth of about 5-10 Gbps (depending upon Generation); which is more than adequate for external drive speeds.
Mine should be arriving this weekend, very similarly spec'd as you say.
I got the i7, 512GB internal, 8GB case with 32GB of 2666MHz SoDimm, with a USB-C 3.1 NVME Samsung 960EVO external and the 10Gb NIC upgrade.
Then a Vega64 water-cooled eGPU.

Hoping this will be quite the small, powerful little fast machine.

C'monnnnnnnn Friday.
 
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My near 10 year old Cheese Grater Pro is still a more capable machine than this on several levels.

Really??? My 10 year old Cheese Grater is getting tossed for one...There is NOTHING a 10 year old Cheese Grater does better than an i7 Mini except generate heat. It can be used as a room heater in the winter. The mini is nearly 3 times the processing power and graphics power (unless u spend $$$ to get a new graphics card, but you can get an eGPU for the mini and smoke whatever u do in the MacPro). The ONLY thing u can do on a Cheese Grater that you can't on a mini is have 5 internal HDs and a Superdrive. Oh and your CheeseGrater Pro was near $5k. This machine is $1500 with an i7 and 256GB SSD. I can buy another Mini in 5 years at that price and STILL spend less money than a "Modular" computer.
 
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