MacOS is not worth the hardware premium to me any more.
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Hands-On With Apple's New 2018 Mac Mini
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It's not even easily professionally repaired! A MBP has it's keyboard riveted on! You have to remove something like 50 ****ing rivets to remove it, and that's after you've disassembled the rest of the machine, including the glued-on battery. Apple's primary response to everything nowadays is to just replace the whole unit, usually at the cost of the owner... and they tell you: you should have gotten AppleCare for your X (let's say a MBP 15").
So you spend $2400 for a base model and when something breaks 1.5 years later (let's say the keyboard) AND you didn't want to shell out hundreds more for an extended warranty service, for a product that was supposed to premium in the first place, and then you have to pay to fix the keyboard which they designed badly in the first place?? Really? Why would you ever give money to this company again??
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Nice system except for lack of modular storage. Please Apple, stop confusing computers with your iPhones. The SoDIMMs are nice, why not have taken that one last step and and put in a M.2 slot or two?
Something like this could have used a few additional USB-A ports. At least the 4 from last gen.
Congrats, I think you're Apple's new target demographic: buying a desktop computer based on the exterior color.
Sadly the GPU sucks still... when will Apple get with the times and at least stick like a MX150 in it? It needs something that isn't intel, they suck!
Don't forget that for every additional screen the GPU has to power, that's power that's not available for actual computing, and that's one of the main drawbacks of an underpowered integrated GPU.
An unreported change...this machine no longer passes 192KHz. audio through the optical output. Maxes out at 96KHz.
Are you seriously comparing a 2012 computer to one from almost 2019? Of course the one that's almost 7 years old never is going to be faster.
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The poor Intel graphics is very disappointing, and the deal breaker, especially at this price. An expensive large external eGPU is not a reason to skimp on the internal graphics.
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I think it would be more compelling if it had a pop out tray in the back that allowed you to easily pull out the components, sort of like the Cube where you pushed in on the handle and could pull all the internals out.
The computer isn't really mini by today's standards, so they might as well make it a size that allows it to be easily upgradeable.
If they just used a variation of the Cube's design with modern specs, I think it would be a huge hit.
The computer isn't really mini by today's standards, so they might as well make it a size that allows it to be easily upgradeable.
If they just used a variation of the Cube's design with modern specs, I think it would be a huge hit.
True. But what Apple picked is ideal for a multi-use general purpose compact computer not designed for gaming, finding the next prime number, or decrypting Top Secret messages from foreign adversaries.
And it will still drive three 4K displays. Need more GPU performance? Easy. Purchase the right computer.
Agree. The budget GPU is poor in this expensive device.
After 4 years of doing absolutely nothing Apple could of put a little effort in for a re-design for improvements to accommodate a better GPU and for better thermal performance with optional fan filter in non-airconditioned non-clean environments.
Then stop. Stop giving them money and leave these forums. Don't waste any more of your life or time with it. Stop wasting time even discussing it. You'll be far happier with life. Move on.
The cube had massive cooling problems though...
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I haven't had such problems, but other people have. I posted a hypothetical. My personally issue is price / value ratio combined with dwindling MacOS features and more and more apparent issues (I'm looking at you Metal 2). I'm fine on my computers for now, I'm if I needed a new one right now: I would think long and hard about going elsewhere.
Side note: As a shareholder and a longterm client I can complain all I want.
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And yet the 2011 Mac mini DID have a dGPU...
My 2012, purchased second hand last year, is full of life and will make it to 2024. Then I'll buy yours off eBay.
swingerofbirch
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I didn't know.
We still have ours and it still works! The graphics card went out, but it was easy to replace.
The problem is it's too slow for most anything and takes up space (more so the 17" Apple Studio Display--an absolutely gorgeous translucent CRT monitor). My parents were trying to get it onto eBay and in fact may have sold it by now without telling me (it's happened before), but I haven't wanted to part with it. Such a gorgeous machine.
As a poster above me stated, picking a computer based on it's color?!?!?! You've got to be kidding us. Hopefully people like you who seem to care more about what a computer looks like than what it can do are not the prevailing trend.
Interesting but overpriced. Considering the next upgrade after this one will probably be another 6 years.
I'm not sure if you've heard of the RX Vega M GH, but it's basically a special integrated AMD solution that comes with the 8809G i7 Intel chip. This thing is unbelievable for an integrated solution and it just blows away any integrated Intel solution available sometimes by an order of magnitude. We're talking VR ready, somewhere just below a desktop Nvidia 1060 in benchmarks, look up the benchmarks it's really a marvel.
The best part is that it's available in certain small form-factor PCs such as the Intel Hades Canyon NUC (which is smaller than the mac mini by volume and also includes more ports). I believe that Apple had a great opportunity to include this chip (or one such similar technology) and they really missed the boat here. This is such a special chip because of the collaboration between AMD and Intel, it's really remarkable.
So to say "blame intel" is not really entirely fair. Apple had other choices, but they decided not to pursue them.