If your theory that the departments competed with one another would have any substance, don’t you think then that the features of iPad OS would have been implemented in Steve’s day?
I can't speak to the accuracy of your assertion, I have no clue. But that would be a wise move, especially when trying to enter/create a whole new market area once the iPhone got traction (the iPad development came first, IIRC, but they released the iPhone first). Tablet computers were nothing new then, but they tried to shoehorn a desktop experience into tablet form and it just didn't work beyond specialized applications. The iOS development was a shot at a completely touch driven UI with no baggage from the desktop environment coming along for the ride. By keeping these development environments as far apart as possible you eliminate even inadvertent subconscious accommodations for possible pointing devices and the like. I'd say it worked. Now we see how difficult it is to bring them back together without the iPads turning into 'smart monitors' where they would work best with a mouse and keyboard but could also be used alone. It seems the latter case is unacceptable to Apple as they appear to want the iPads to be JUST AS functional with only touch interfaces as with external components. And that is not an easy trick to pull off....snip.. The truth is the iPad, as successfully as it is, was crippled from the beginning by Steve Jobs management ideas and decisions. He kept the iOS and OS X departments separate and essentially competing against each other. He also never envisioned the pad as a desktop replacement....snip..
No it wouldn’t.
Remember Steve Jobs initially never saw iOS as more than a content device, iPod, iPhone ...
Additionally check out the various videos and books about Apple and Jobs and I think you will find his management style was not so friendly. There are a lot of people trying to figure out his success, here’s an example:
“I think that was a significant part of it. At Apple he'd been constantly kicking against partners or superiors to get what he wanted, often blaming others when things didn't work out and occasionally wrapping himself in glory that rightly belonged to others.”
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"A person was either a hero or a bozo, a product was either amazing or ****." He wanted Apple to be a company of "A players," which meant regularly cutting B and C players, or pushing them with great fervor — bullying them, to some extent — to become A players.
And yes the departments were pitted against each other because they had different roles in Steve’s vision and you didn’t cross Steve.
My point is OS X and iOS were in two separate departments in Jobs mind and neither would meet, although these days they should be one in the same.
Odd. On my becoming obsolete Mac mini, initiating Mission Control using a hot corner requires only a second or two. However, I primarily use Control (Ctrl) and left or right arrow (< or >) to move from Space to Space. It feels very quick to me.Take for example those long animations when swiping up to expose spaces on macos... To anyone switching spaces often it's obvious that those animations should be much faster, but Apple jsut doesn't see it that way.
Last but not least, history is what it is, Steve is gone for over 7 years now and not really relevant anymore when it comes to the future of the device.
It's not, it's just that ipad users seem to have no issues limiting themselves. I don't mean that as a bad thing against ipad users at all, but there are definitely limitations using an ipad instead of a PC. For many, probably most users this is ok because they have a PC or OSx device in addition to their ipad. Once again this is all designed to keep consumers purchasing 2 devices, the less limitations the ipad has the more consumers would consider only buying an ipad as their main computing device.
The surface devices really are quite nice in that aspect, no limitations, no trade offs yet have pretty much every single advantage the ipads have. My 7 year old uses my SP6, no issues since she has her own login and there are very simple work arounds to not share installed programs, etc. I'm planning on getting her own surface Go for xmas, she doesn't ever want to use the ipad anymore, that's for my 2 year old now as is fitting until he gets a little smarter. You should look into the surface pro paradigm.
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This stuff isnt' rocket science. A user logs themselves out, if they aren't logged out when the device goes to sleep or is powered off then they are logged off automatically, sleep time can already be changed. Yes the lock screen always shows all user accounts if everyone is logged out. Find my app works on the main or admin account, which technically is always active. iMessage works natively for the main/admin account, and any other accounts work off of an email, which currently works just fine on iOS. When photos don't have enough storage the same thing happens as currently, you get a message that you are out of space. Why would you delete another account for space? Buy a larger ipad, or at least with the pros plug in external storage. The system wouldn't access a non logged in users data, that user would have to login. 2factor you would have to login the user needing this. Most of these issues aren't issues on windows, this is the inherent flaw in iOS is that you are right, it's probably really difficult to expand to stuff like this because it's such a limited OS. It will be interesting to see how ipad OS fares as Apple applies band aid after band aid to try to make it more PC like.
That mode of multitasking is inconvenient. Rather than adding new features Apple should start with the basics and come up with a better way. Unfortunately, when it comes to multitasking, Apple doesn't have a good record in general. Take for example those long animations when swiping up to expose spaces on macos... To anyone switching spaces often it's obvious that those animations should be much faster, but Apple jsut doesn't see it that way.
I disagree with you on a couple of points. Being forced to use a Surface Pro occasionally at work, in my opinion it is a compromise device.. Compared to an iPad it sucks as a pad, compared to a laptop it sucks as a laptop. If I wanted a pad I would never buy a SP. I don't mind, actually prefer, owning two devices optimized to their task.
When the iPad first came out, I was surprised it didn't support multi-user. Now I am glad it doesn't. The iPad is both a personal device and unlike a shared desktop computer, a highly mobile device. I would hate to argue about who gets to use it when. Or hunt for where was it last left. Or when I travel for work, if I can take it or not. It's mine. I use it when I want how I want where I want. You get yours LOL. And that's what we do in my family, we all determine if we want one or not.
But more than that, I don't want the headache of administering an iPad. And storage allocation WOULD be a problem in a family. Again with a desktop computer where storage is cheap, not a big deal to allocate it ahead of time, or hook up separate hard drives even, but on an iPad where storage is expensive I would hate to have to share it. If its static, that means arguing about who gets what and a pain to set up, if dynamic, then you run the risk of someone downloading a lot of movies and creating problems for others. Again, something that will require an admin attention. Who has the time for that?
So yes, I can see some use cases where it would be useful to have a multi-user iPad, but I think that's more in theory than practice. In practice people would get frustrated with the admin process and the user pool would become even smaller. For me, I actually have an old iPad mini 4, which is cheap these days, on a separate account of its own, but linked into family sharing, as a sort of general iPad that I can hand to guests/family for getting access to my movies and music and airplay to the AppleTv/Sonos/HomePods.
Which I suppose just goes to say I am Apple's target audience of being comfortable owning/paying for multiple devices.
I have a really simple solution for iPads, port over OSX and we will have a first class computer with all the bells and whistles.
The truth is the iPad, as successfully as it is, was crippled from the beginning by Steve Jobs management ideas and decisions. He kept the iOS and OS X departments separate and essentially competing against each other. He also never envisioned the pad as a desktop replacement.
Yes the iPadOS is an improvement and moving in the right direction. Can we add a mouse feature please!
You have a right to your own opinion .Great discussion. I disagree on the tablet part, as a tablet the ipad sucks to me. One of the main reasons is the kickstand, I think any tablet released without one is subpar right out of the gate. How many times I've been frustrated because I had to lay my ipad down flat on a desk, or had to hold it up while lying in bed, or prop it up precariously on the back of an airline seat, etc. I won't even include the flimsy horrible add on cover because it's not even close to the SP kickstand. I also find "apps" way too limiting, even on a tablet, the over simplification very often makes apps even more complicated. As a laptop is where it's not quite as good as a full laptop, and that's primarily because of the keyboard. But the SP keyboard is still pretty phenomenal for what it is, no comparison to the junk Apple sells for the ipad. Still as a laptop it's pretty darn good.
Yeah I can see storage as a limiting factor, but that is clearly Apple's fault since they don't put in a lot of storage space, don't let you upgrade it, and make it very expensive to buy more memory as well as not allowing external storage (until iOS13 and at least you can use wired external storage on the pros, which is still a crappy solution). Another reason the SP is a better tablet is I can pop in a mini SD card, now available in 1 TB. 1 freakin TB, even if you manage to fill it up just pop it out and put another one in. So while I agree with you, that's a limitation that Apple puts on their and their consumer happily accept.
Once again administration shows how the SP is better as a tablet. Very easy log in/log out and easy to keep everything apart. Storage issues, see above. Also just buy every user their own SD card, the 256gb ones are dirt cheap, the only administration you will do is writing your name on the SD card and popping it in.
But let me say that I'm NOT arguing for multi user login on the ipad. Sure I would like to have it, but once you think it through (just as you have) you realize that it would bring way too many headaches precisely because the OS as well as the hardware is just too primitive. Apple would have to shift both the OS and hardware to be more like a Mac computer, and of course at that point they would not be able to convince consumers they have to purchase 2 devices. As it is Apple will eventually run into this issue as they piece meal these little morsels of PC-like behavior, just a few little features every year, but not too many or their strategy goes out the door.
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I don't think that was the reasoning, but this is only my opinion and not based on any knowledge. I think iOS and the ipad are so primitive because they needed to be primitive. When the ipad came out the tablets that were out there were a joke, huge, heavy, thick as a brick, extremely poor battery life, horrible touch UI, etc. Jobs incredible genius realized that consumers wanted convenience, they wanted to sit on the couch with their ipad or stick it in their bag to travel. So to make something that was thin, light, had long battery life and a good touch UI he came up with the ipad, although most likely it was the result of years of testing and tweaking his vision. The only reason the ipad is picking up PC-like functions is because tablets like the surface pro have caught up and consumers are starting to notice. No it's not an avalanche, but still significant and Apple is smart enough to see the future where PC tablets get even better and continue to surpass the ipad. I really wonder what direction Jobs would have taken the ipad in, no doubt he would have thought of something no one else had (such as the ipad) and reinvented the market again.
You have a right to your own opinion .
I just don’ t agree on the tablet part of the surface being a better tablet. I have owned a surface pro, but went back to a tablet and macbook instead of the sp.
Not a very good tablet and not a good laptop.
I think it's a personal thing. I work very fast, and animations often can't keep up with me. There could be an easy solution if animations could be changed, but unfortunately it's one of those things that's no longer tweakable in mac os. I really like spaces, but when it comes to working with multiple full-screen windows, windows 10 provides a superior (faster for me) mode of interaction — sadly the rest of windows 10 is meh. I think even Ubuntu with Gnome has it better, although I may be mistaken since I mostly use CLI in itWow. I'm surprised to read of that, a problem I didn't even know which existed. My MBP is almost 6 years old and there's no delay at all when I swipe up to expose my one dozen desktops (most of which have apps already open). Could it be because I have "automatically rearrange spaces" turned off?