Hands-On With Apple's New MagSafe Duo Charger for iPhone 12 and Apple Watch

[farewelwilliams]

Read Apples support document, again.
“Higher wattage adapters at or above 9V/2.56A will also deliver a maximum of up to 15W peak power to iPhone 12.”
I can’t make it more clear than that.

You are absolutely failing to read.

If you plugin your MagSafe to a 9V/3A, it WILL NOT RUN at 9V/3A. 9V/3A is 27W. Document specifically says a max of 15W. It will run at a lower power profile.

The document is saying it's *compatible* with 9V/3A chargers, it doesn't *run* at 9V/3A

Do you understand now?

 

[7thson]

You are absolutely failing to read.

If you plugin your MagSafe to a 9V/3A, it WILL NOT RUN at 9V/3A. 9V/3A is 27W. Document specifically says a max of 15W. It will run at a lower power profile.

The document is saying it's *compatible* with 9V/3A chargers, it doesn't *run* at 9V/3A

Do you understand now?

I understand what Apples support document says. You are claiming something else. You’re saying 9V/3A will not run the Duo. Apple says it will. You say MagSafe will burn at 9V/3A. Please show where Apple says this.

 

[farewelwilliams]

I understand what Apples support document says. You are claiming something else. You’re saying 9V/3A will not *run*(not sure what the * mean but for clarity since you used them) the Duo. Apple says it will. You say MagSafe will burn at 9V/3A. Please show where Apple says this.

Again, you're misreading. MagSafe *would* cause damage to the battery if Apple designed MagSafe to run at 9V/3A because it would generate too much heat. The other person was arguing why not use the existing 9V/3A power profile. that's why Apple didn't use 9V/3A. That's the context.

 

[7thson]

For sure one of us is misreading

 

[farewelwilliams]

For sure one of us is misreading

Yeah. You are.

Here's your direct quote: "You’re saying 9V/3A will not run the Duo."
No where in my posts did I mention 9V/3A and Duo in the same sentence. Go ahead and find a direct quote where I did. You can't, because I never said that.

Anyways, I'm done talking to you. See ya. 🤦‍♂️

 

[LongWayHome]

So then what are you complaining about exactly? What Apple did helps the environment. They also make some extra money. I’m having some trouble seeing the problem here. Would it have been better if Apple included the charger to the detriment of the environment, but made less money because of it?

I'm not complaining about anything. I just simply said that when I hear the "this was all done for the environment" it rubs me the wrong way because I don't personally think it had anything to do with Apple's motivation to remove it. Helping the environment is a byproduct of Apple making millions more dollars by no longer offering a charger with their phones. Screwing the customer over just slightly while further lining their pockets irks me a little when they preach to everyone that their reasoning behind it was purely motivated by being green.

 

[dannyyankou]

PSA: I haven’t been able to get MagSafe charging working at all with Apple’s own 29w power adapter. But a 18w Anker one I have works just fine.

Update on this saga: I brought it to Apple and they tested it out with another 29w adapter and a 30w adapter. They were able to replicate the same problem with their own 29w adapter, so they swapped it out for a 30w. Good job Apple!

 

[The Game 161]

Update on this saga: I brought it to Apple and they tested it out with another 29w adapter and a 30w adapter. They were able to replicate the same problem with their own 29w adapter, so they swapped it out for a 30w. Good job Apple!

Glad you got it sorted

 

[Lounge vibes 05]

Ehhh ended up getting it, using the veterans homepage through apple.com at a massive discount paying it with apple gift cards but just remember

apple.com user guide tells you to take off your leather/silicone case so it doesn’t compress because of the heat...

That is not what it says.
Nowhere does it say to take off your leather case or your silicone case. In fact, the silicone case is never mentioned once.
It does say that the duo’s hinge may show signs of wear if left in heated areas or left in the folded position for long amounts of time, and your leather case may show a circle where the magsafe is placed.
That’s it. It doesn’t say not to use certain cases, it just says that The leather case may show wear, and the magsafe duo hinge may show wear. We already knew all this, nothing here is eye-opening.

 

[Lounge vibes 05]

I'm not complaining about anything. I just simply said that when I hear the "this was all done for the environment" it rubs me the wrong way because I don't personally think it had anything to do with Apple's motivation to remove it. Helping the environment is a byproduct of Apple making millions more dollars by no longer offering a charger with their phones. Screwing the customer over just slightly while further lining their pockets irks me a little when they preach to everyone that their reasoning behind it was purely motivated by being green.

I mean, Apple can care about more than one thing at once. They can care about money, and the environment. That is possible.
And if something that happens to be green is going to make them more money, why on earth wouldn’t they do it?
As for the marketing angle, your post shows that you know nothing about marketing. If Apple marketed the fact that they removed the chargers as “a way to make Apple more money,” they would lose almost all of their credibility, and would be ”Samsung batteries exploding” levels of criticized in the media.
Meanwhile, Apple has a history of preaching environmentalism, so if they use the green argument, it fits right in with their marketing strategies of the past.
It doesn’t matter if it’s an indirect result of attempting to squeeze more money out of the customer, it’s still undeniable that shipping a charger is less green then not shipping a charger.
therefore, there’s nothing incorrect about Apple‘s marketing.

 

[LongWayHome]

I mean, Apple can care about more than one thing at once. They can care about money, and the environment. That is possible.
And if something that happens to be green is going to make them more money, why on earth wouldn’t they do it?
As for the marketing angle, your post shows that you know nothing about marketing. If Apple marketed the fact that they removed the chargers as “a way to make Apple more money,” they would lose almost all of their credibility, and would be ”Samsung batteries exploding” levels of criticized in the media.
Meanwhile, Apple has a history of preaching environmentalism, so if they use the green argument, it fits right in with their marketing strategies of the past.
It doesn’t matter if it’s an indirect result of attempting to squeeze more money out of the customer, it’s still undeniable that shipping a charger is less green then not shipping a charger.
therefore, there’s nothing incorrect about Apple‘s marketing.

Lol in no way was a insinuating that Apple should market the fact that they are trying to make more money by removing the charger, so give me a break. I also never said there was anything "incorrect" about their marketing, I just said I didn't care for it.

And I didn't say they couldn't help the environment and also make money. I said I don't really like it when they are all preachy about the environment to the consumer when IN MY OPIONION it had nothing to do with the environment and everything to do with making money. I've explained 10 times in this thread why I think that so I'm not doing it again.

 

[Curtterp]

I have had the Magsafe Duo for about a week, and here is my take on the matter.

I like the design of the Duo. I like the popup puck for the Apple Watch because I have the one piece band and having it in nightstand mode works well for me.

I also like the positive feedback of the magnets of the phone charger side. It is nice to know when I have the phone in the correct place for charging.

I find it puzzling that the connection is a lighting connector, not a USB-C type connector. My preference would have been USB-C, but I am not the design engineer.

I have had issues with the Duo lifting when I try to pick up my phone, but I figured out that if I place a finger or thumb on the Duo between the chargers and then lift, the charger will stay down and not try to follow the phone.

Overall, even at the price, I still like the Duo and it works well for my workflow. If I need to travel, it will be nice to have that for my phone and watch, and not take up a lot of room. I had a spare 30W USB-C charger, so I didn't mind that a charger was not included with Duo.

So yes, the price is high, but I didn't mind. It works very well charging both my phone and my watch.

 

[pesos]

I have had the Magsafe Duo for about a week, and here is my take on the matter.

I like the design of the Duo. I like the popup puck for the Apple Watch because I have the one piece band and having it in nightstand mode works well for me.

I also like the positive feedback of the magnets of the phone charger side. It is nice to know when I have the phone in the correct place for charging.

I find it puzzling that the connection is a lighting connector, not a USB-C type connector. My preference would have been USB-C, but I am not the design engineer.

I have had issues with the Duo lifting when I try to pick up my phone, but I figured out that if I place a finger or thumb on the Duo between the chargers and then lift, the charger will stay down and not try to follow the phone.

Overall, even at the price, I still like the Duo and it works well for my workflow. If I need to travel, it will be nice to have that for my phone and watch, and not take up a lot of room. I had a spare 30W USB-C charger, so I didn't mind that a charger was not included with Duo.

So yes, the price is high, but I didn't mind. It works very well charging both my phone and my watch.

Agree with all points. USB-C was left off so that they can sell gen2 to us a year from now.

 

[0s and 1s]

I’d be surprised if any 2021 hardware / accessory release is lightning based.

Then again, this is Apple...

 

[Htsi]

Happy with mine. Using it with 20w gets 11w & with 87w gets 14w. Replaced mophie that worked for 2 months & would flash on and off when used with 12P

 

[The Game 161]

I use my 18w charger and very happy with it as it is only really used overnight anyway so not needed to have the most available charging speed

 

[Skoal]

The fact when you pick up your phone it brings up the charger and chargers slower means it isn’t worth it

It picks up the phone only if you’re too dumb to figure out the simple solution to not have that happen. The fact it charges a phone AND a watch at 1 watt less than standard MagSafe is common sense.

 

[Skoal]

For the price is should be 15w I brought the normal MagSafe and double side tape and it stays on my desk

So then by your logic for the price of normal MagSafe shouldn’t it also come with double sided tape?

 

[Skoal]

No it picks up the charger

No it doesn’t unless you have zero common sense.

 

[Skoal]

Strangest product to come from apple since the iPod socks. At least those were only $29.

A dual phone/watch charger strange? Mmmkay!

 

[Skoal]

I assume they are negative about it because it is something that you can basically get for $30 sans magsafe.

Key word “basically”.

 

[Skoal]

I’ll take my bashing but I love mine. Just got it today and it fits great on my nightstand. I’ve been frustrated with 3rd party chargers that don’t seem to work properly. It takes less room and DOES NOT lift up when I pick up my phone. I’m not sure where everyone keeps getting that from. When I travel, it will be nice to unhook and throw in my bag. I already have a usb-c to lightning cable in there so I can remove my watch charger and charging block for good!

Let people bash. Screw ‘em. I tried one and it’s extremely nice. Well designed and well built. Typical Apple quality. The price is high but that’s only a hinderance for people who like to complain that something they don’t want is too expensive. I guarantee most folks complaining about the price have bought plenty of products you and I and many others find a waste of money. Fact is there is no such thing as a waste of your own money. What some find value in others may not. That’s life.

 

[Skoal]

This is dreadful. A wireless (with a wire) charger, without a charger. Sir Jonathan Paul Ive KBE HonFREng RDI wouldn’t have let this out of the door.

Lol, all chargers require “a wire” to charge a device somewhere in the chain unless you have some magical charger we haven’t heard about.

 

[Skoal]

,

Deiter Bohn with The Verge did a hands on with this a few weeks ago, echoing many of the criticisms here. He noted that the Duo wasn’t heavy enough to disconnect without putting downward pressure on it. To be fair, this is a minor issue compared to criticism in general.

And if it was heavy enough to release the phone without moving we’d have a whole other group of complainers. I don’t know if it’s generational or just the internet age in general but wow people complain about everything these days. Like they are owed everything.

 

[The Game 161]

lifting the phone up from the duo charger is rather easy and requires a dead easy way of doing so without the apple watch coming off at all.