Does this leave a mark on the back of the phone like the phone MagSafe charger? I saw someone else ask that earlier and I’m not seeing that it was answered.
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Hands-On With Apple's New MagSafe Duo Charger for iPhone 12 and Apple Watch
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The (new) Nomad base station pro supposedly has full surface charging but at $199 it’s more expensive and not as compact as the MagSafe duo.
Yes, it leaves a very faint mark on the back of my iPhone leather MagSafe case. Doesn’t bother me though.
I think if you use leather cases yes not had any issue with my silicone case though
As someone who prefers a ceaseless phone this is a little concerning to me. Thanks for the response
I can’t tell b/c there was the start of a mark already before the Duo. However the phone is easier to remove than with the MagSafe puck.
One thing I appreciate about the duo, you can drop your AirPods anywhere on the MagSafe half, and it will charge. With a regular qi charger, you have to sit there and move it around until the light turns on. That’s pretty annoying
Got my duo today - yes it's expensive, but it feels nice and I was surprised at how small it actually is. Works great so far and it's going to be my main bedside charging device as well as when travelling (post-Covid 
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I got this, using it on my nightstand and love it so far ... pre-covid, I traveled quite a bit probably 2 weeks of any given month ... so this will be great when I get back to it ... but otherwise, its super convenient to keep in my backpack and use for travels, even going to a coffee shop or bar to work ... its $$ but the convenience is worth it ... who wants separate cords and chargers when an all in one does the job!
Got mine just in time (in fact had to have it shipped to my hotel so it would arrive before I leave the country). For a frequent traveler the size, weight, and form factor are great. I would be fine with the price if it included the wall wart. I have one from my iPad Pro and that works, but it’s annoying that an old 5w doesn’t work (albeit slowly) in a pinch. Trying to plug into the hotel USB ports resulted in one device or the other charging but not both. Really needs to come with the adapter if it’s going to be so picky about what it works with.
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You can but only with the “proper” adapter. Apparently not the 27 watt one Apple discontinued. They should have put an adapter in the box. Their environmental argument is a fallacy. Which one are you using?
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The real story behind MagSafe, USB-C PD, and why you need a 20W AC charger | AppleInsider
If you want to charge your iPhone 12 using MagSafe, Apple recommends using certain 20W AC adapters — and they don't need to come from Apple, despite what you may have heard. We explain what the requirements are, and why an older 18W adapter just won't cut it.
The real story behind MagSafe, USB-C PD, and why you need a 20W AC charger | AppleInsider
If you want to charge your iPhone 12 using MagSafe, Apple recommends using certain 20W AC adapters — and they don't need to come from Apple, despite what you may have heard. We explain what the requirements are, and why an older 18W adapter just won't cut it.appleinsider.com
The real reason you need to buy the 20W power brick is because that's the way Apple designed it. The end.
I just came here to see if anyone else had issues with the 29W charger, and it looks pretty consistent. Oh well. I swapped the 29W with the 30W I used with my iPad Pro, and everything is happy now. I’m just glad I don’t have to swap out a defective Duo.
Those 29W are pretty old. I got mine when I had a 2016 MacBook. I remember thinking it was weird when they replaced them with 30W adapters. I thought... why change a product for 1W, but now it seems there was a bit more to it than that. Maybe Apple only bothered supporting unique voltages/wattages in the 29W, and the 30W was a bit more capable. That’s my guess. USB-C has had plenty of growing pains on its pathway to being the one port to rule them all.
Those 29W are pretty old. I got mine when I had a 2016 MacBook. I remember thinking it was weird when they replaced them with 30W adapters. I thought... why change a product for 1W, but now it seems there was a bit more to it than that. Maybe Apple only bothered supporting unique voltages/wattages in the 29W, and the 30W was a bit more capable. That’s my guess. USB-C has had plenty of growing pains on its pathway to being the one port to rule them all.
Why they don't include a $20 charging brick with a device you pay $1,200 for is just insane. If it really were about being environmentally friendly, give iPhone 12 buyers the option of requesting a FREE power brick. You include a USB-C cable in the box and ask that I use my "old bricks" to charge the phone... um, Apple has never given me a USB-C brick with older iPhones. Such a money-grab.
If you have an older brick, you also have an older lightning cable.
Or are you suggesting that Apple not include a charging cable with the next iphone as well?
That’s true, but you’re acting as if Apple has implemented some phony limitation to the compatibility of the Duo and the 18W power brick. In reality, the 18W brick simply isn’t capable of it and you saying “its not a limitation of the 18W charger” isn’t true.
If they're expecting for me to use my old brick and cable, why include a cable at all? Not very environmentally friendly. Point is, their argument is inconsistent and just a money grab.
If you care so much about the environment, release iPhones every two years since no one really needs a new phone every year /eyeroll
One does not exclude the other.
There is likely some truth in Apple's claims that their customers likely already have a number of charging bricks lying around, either those that came with their iOS devices, or third party bricks that were purchased separately. I myself have quite a few myself, especially those of the 30w variety with a usb-c and usb-a port. And my recent MBA purchase gave me yet another 30w charging brick. So given the scale at which Apple operates at, we are still looking at a significant reduction in e-waste a few years down the road, even if the number of people purchasing additional chargers right now makes it seem counterintuitive.
On the other hand, the exclusion of the charging brick also lowers the cost of the iPhone 12, which itself is likely not cheap due to the price of the 5g modems. Which arguably made it easer for Apple to go ahead with this decision.
As to your last point, Apple is actually helping the environment by making their phones of higher quality materials that allow them to last longer, as well as supporting them with software updates for longer. What not every person realises is that because of this longer-term support from Apple, iPhones tend to hold their resale value longer. So what happens is that when you resell your older iPhone to offset the cost of a newer one, Apple is able to refurbish that iPhone before reselling it in the 2nd hand market. And these phones continue to be useful for another 2-4 years at least.
Better than all the cheap handsets that end up in the landfill directly because they have zero resale value.
Just because Apple releases a phone every year doesn’t mean you or anyone else has to buy it. I don’t. Not everybody is on the same replacement cycle as well. New TVs come out every year, do you replace yours every year?
I'm saying they imposed a limitation on Magsafe to only fast charge with their 20W charger. The 18W charger is capable of supplying more wattage through MagSafe, but Apple wanted people to purchased a new 20W charger to gain that functionality. I couldn't care less, but it has little to do with the environment.
Factually wrong. Third party chargers get full speed. MagSafe requires the new PD3.0 profile while most old chargers were stuck at PD2.0. Zollotech did an update video showing the new Anker and Aukey 20w charger works: "As long as you have a 9V/2.22A charger, it'll charge at full speed"
Apple isn't forcing people to buy their new chargers. Any third party charger running PD3.0 with at least 20W can do full charging.
Combine with the fact that MagSafe works with other Qi devices, MagSafe is far more compatible than a lightning cable which means MagSafe is more than likely going to outlast the lightning standard in supporting many devices in the future.
It's environmentally friendly.
No. As I mentioned above, all PD2.0 chargers don't support the 9V 2.2A spec. PD2.0 has to use the next power profile down. This is why an 87W Apple USB-C charger won't charge at full speed because it doesn't have the 9V 2.2A spec.
Please educate yourself on what PD3.0 is.
Factually wrong again. Any PD3.0 >=20W charger works. As noted above, my Anker 20W charges at full speed. I think you've been brainwashed by the typical clickbait articles complaining about full MagSafe charge speeds.
Apple has been shipping USB-A to Lightning cables since 2013. That's 7+ years. Apple continues to sell USB-A to lightning.
On the otherhand:
Apple released the 87w charger in 2016 and replaced with 96w only 3 years later. 87w is no longer sold by Apple
Apple released the 29w charger in 2015 and replaced with 30w only 3 years later. 29w is no longer sold by Apple.
Apple released the 18w charger in 2018 and replaced with 20w only 2 years later. 18w is no longer sold by Apple.
Tell me which is more consistent?
Disagreed, considering your thesis was based on incorrect information as noted above.
Apple gets a lot of Android switchers. Android switchers generally have the USB-C charger already, but not the lightning cable itself. This included cable covers that large portion of customers.
No. Releasing an iPhone every 2 years and removing a charger from the box doesn't equate to the same level of "care" to the environment. Apple cares enough about the environment to remove the charger. It doesn't care that much to release an iPhone every 2 years.