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Neat-o !!

Apple's finally realizing the competition and added/useful features in third party apps like Waze or TomTom.

I've used TomTom app for ages, but now thanks to this i may switch. You can never be without a gas station :)
 
Try this app anywhere outside the U.S / U.K. & a few other popular countries and you will have the answer to why most people use Google's.
 
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That has been my biggest issue with Apple Maps. Search. Try it every upgrade and it still has major issues.
Had the paramedics over and they took the wife to the ER. Had my iPad - whipped open maps and dropped in the name as given to me by the para's. Apple Maps (iOS7) directed me to an ER almost 600 miles away. Opened Google Maps on my phone and it directed me to the correct ER.
With IOS 8, I once again tried Apple Maps (AM). Search for "Hospital". The nearest location was a nurses uniform company. The next was a medical shipping warehouse. The first "Hospital" on the list was number 6.
Just this morning (and a fine one it is), I opened AM (iOS 9), allowed it's use of locations and typed in "Hospital" and selected the first listed item. Please see below for the result. o_O
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WTF?!? Never mind the fact I haven't been to Minn. in a couple of decades. This is behavior I never see in Google Maps or Waze or ...

Apple Maps. I just don't, can't, trust it. :(
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That depends on your location and search.
Where it is accurate, AM is good. The number of places is far less than GM.
Search - that is a whole other ball game and in AM it is poor.
Very strange results you have there. I did a search for "Hospital" from LA and got much better results.

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Apple's GUI continues to be complex with hidden menus, complex taps, and more...

It makes me sad, actually. I am a UI enthusiast and am really interested in the underlying rationales for doing things in a certain way, namely to make the interaction straightforward and consistent. Apple’s old Human Interface Guidelines were a treasure trove for this. Since their design overhaul in iOS 7, Apple’s own adherence has become erratic and inexplicable and I feel that iOS 10 is making this more severe. They are making changes first and then either don’t bother to explain them to developers (which they have not done yet for this new Maps UI) or update their Guidelines post-change to make an exception for themselves. The idea to put UI components at the bottom of the screen is not a bad idea at all, but Apple uses a Control Centre-like handle now that has to be dragged upwards at every stage and then you can even scroll vertically within that panel if there is too much content to show. It is a really unusual interaction on iOS, in my opinion. I also think that this gesture can easily conflict with Control Centre itself.
 
i'm guessing that iOS will know where you parked based on disconnecting from your car via bluetooth. Would this work on older vehicles that utilise a third-party bluetooth device that does the same functions as a newer, bluetooth enabled car?
 
I've used both and Apple Maps haven't gotten me lost yet. Google had a long head start in the mapping business. And even when they were the default mapping app on iOS, they withheld turn by turn navigation. So Apple had to create their own. Mapping and turn by turn is not something one can just flip a switch and poof it done. We all saw that during Apple Maps release.

But Apple has taken their time to steadily correct and improve their mapping app. Google didn't get where they are overnight.... Remember when Mapquest was better than Google? I do.
Thanks for the history lesson. Let's stick to the here & now and talk about how both Apple Maps and Google Maps stack up head-to-head. Sure, maybe it's subjective or dependent on where you live and travel, but IMO, Google Maps is much more reliable and it's not even close.
 
i'm guessing that iOS will know where you parked based on disconnecting from your car via bluetooth. Would this work on older vehicles that utilise a third-party bluetooth device that does the same functions as a newer, bluetooth enabled car?
I was thinking it would work by moving at driving speeds then stopping, then moving at walking speeds.

Either way, there would be some false positives, such as when you get dropped off at work, or the mall, or somewhere else. Your iPhone has no way of knowing that the car is no longer where it was when you got out of it.

Since many cars now have LTE service, and even more have GPS, I would like to see the iPhone able to ask the car to tell you where it currently is, Tesla can do this already. I imagine a "Find My Car" feature will be offered on the Apple Car.
 
Indeed. Waze is so far ahead of the competition it's laughable.
Being utterly free as well I don't know why everyone doesn't use it. CarPlay can be the only reason I can see not to.

Google should literally shut down Google Maps and rebrand Waze as Google Maps. Google is a hard company to figure out sometimes, they like multiple, iterative competing apps and services for some reason. I don't think they realize how much they cannibalize themselves by doing this.
 
I've always liked iOS6+ Maps better than Google Maps for many reasons, but my one complaint is that you can't zoom out while you're looking at the map unless you hit "overview," wait for a long 100% zoom-out animation to finish, then zoom back in. Real PitA. Looks like they've maybe fixed this, but I'll have to try for myself.
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Indeed. Waze is so far ahead of the competition it's laughable.
Being utterly free as well I don't know why everyone doesn't use it. CarPlay can be the only reason I can see not to.
Doesn't work in the city. It thinks it's faster to make a left onto a busy 4-lane two-way street than it is to keep going straight along a slightly longer route. Also, can we please get an interface not made for children?
 
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I've always liked iOS6+ Maps better than Google Maps for many reasons, but my one complaint is that you can't zoom out while you're looking at the map unless you hit "overview," wait for a long 100% zoom-out animation to finish, then zoom back in. Looks like they've maybe fixed this, but I'll have to try for myself.
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Doesn't work in the city. It thinks it's faster to make a left onto a busy 4-lane two-way street than it is to keep going straight along a slightly longer route. Also, can we please get an interface not made for children?

Yeah waze is a little weird in dense urban areas, but it has improved a lot this past year. They also announced they are improving the service by navigating away from dangerous left turns and intersections. I agree about the interface, especially the 4.0 update, it's horrible. I have a 3.9 apk I sideload because I don't really like 4.0. I think Waze serves a purpose for Google, they like all the users to advertise to but they can also let Waze be the bad boys with police alerts. Police alerts on Google Maps would be way too politically incorrect for them.
 
Interesting new features but, I wonder if this app will have a way to save a route and provide turn by turn directions offline. Roaming charges are increasing, and using this app in areas not covered by my provider would be, for me, at great feature.
 
I use Apple maps with Google maps as an occasional backup check. Most of the time it's just fine and it's better integrated than google maps. So these updates will be very welcome. Google maps seems to be more upto date when it's a business location I'm looking for and the business has not been around very long.

I used Waze for a while but my experienced of it sucked over time. so no.

Yes, keep improving Apple Maps.
 
And that's all?.. All that the richest (or the most expensive?) company in the world can come up with? By the year 2525 it will be an up-to-date and modern app finally, not lagging a century behind.
 
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Nope its because people are lazy and don't want to bother looking in the App store for a better app that can't integrate with iOS due to Apples rules

Oh and my road still isn't on it even though I've lived there over 10 years

And did you report this supposed fact, the nonexistence of your road, to Apple?
Or do you have thousands of calories of energy to burn on bitching, but not one calorie on solving the problem?

I've reported multiple Maps issues to Apple and they've all eventually been resolved.
(Except two, which Google also doesn't handle:
- locations of official mail boxes (ie places where one can drop off mail)
- decent walking directions. Walking directions need to be very different from driving directions because of issues like you can walk on both sides of a road, and traffic lights handle pedestrians differently from cars. Both companies right now serve up thinly modified car directions, and they could do a lot better.
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Same thing. It's been great for me and just as accurate, sometimes better than Google Maps.



LOL great reference (and great episode). I just drop a pin at my car's location. It's nice to have a dedicated feature for it but it wasn't hard before.




My experience has been great even since the beta. I used the beta to drive to a couple REALLY rural places and it has always worked well for me.
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I have a serious question, I'm not trying to be a smart ***. Is it really a big deal that it spells out Saint rather than abbreviate it?

Actually it is (IMHO) a big deal, in that you simply don't think of it. The job of a computer is to conform to human behaviors and expectations, not vice versa. Apple is seriously screwing up with this one.

(And I don't know what their problem is. You have the same problem with St John Knits. Good luck trying to find one of their stores.
St John Knits gives you one thing, Saint John Knits gives you something else, St. John Knits gives you a third thing, you have to enter some variant of that now as St. John OUTLET to get the shop at the outlet malls, and a different variant (St John APPAREL) to get yet other stores. It's all stupid beyond belief.

Google shouldn't get too cocky. They're slightly (but only very slightly) better. Both companies are doing a truly lousy job of clustering an aggregate of name variants down to a single canonical name (and its manifestations as different stores).
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When they first released Apple Maps - the really disasterous release which nearly caused me to miss my daughters graduation by sending me to the wrong street initially - they removed Google maps from the app store

BS. This never happened.

Apple released iPhone Maps based Apple's data rather than Google's, with iOS 6 in Sept 2012 (announced June 2012). Google released Google Maps as a separate app in Dec 2012. There was no point at which Apple prevented Google Maps from existing in the app store.

But go ahead and believe that if you like. It seems to be a human trait to want to pretend that you are horribly persecuted regardless of your actual life situation...
 
Thanks for the history lesson. Let's stick to the here & now and talk about how both Apple Maps and Google Maps stack up head-to-head. Sure, maybe it's subjective or dependent on where you live and travel, but IMO, Google Maps is much more reliable and it's not even close.

Who would argue Apple maps stacking up against Google maps? But history is important. because it seems people here either forgot or don't know that Google maps was the default map on iOS. But Google withheld navigation, forcing Apple to come up with their own solution. Instead of arguing which is best (Google) why not ask this: If Google Maps had turn by turn navigation on iOS since its launch, would Apple even need to create their own? The answer would be... No.
 
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I drive commercially in NY for a living and go to 10 different locations everyday. At first I loved Waze and its traffic diversion ability but quickly discovered it will have you do a ridiculous amount of turns to save a minute or two. I guess if you're just doing one trip it's fine but when driving all day Waze is too much.
Google maps is feature rich with photo of locations that come in handy. My knock on Google is it gives you to much information both on the map and audio. If a highway sign is especially long it will read out the whole entire sign most times I don't have that much time to respond, I've missed many a exit because of this.
It's like Google tries to do to much, navigation should be quick, short and to the point.
That's why I like Apple maps although not polished but SIMPLE. It looks and acts like a navigation app. I don't need excessive information on the screen. I rarely miss a turn with Apple unlike Google with its lengthy complex directions.

I look forward to iOS 10 public beta and welcome the improvements and thanks for Keeping It Simple!
 
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the issue with Apple maps is not the UI, the features, or software - the issue is with the underlying map data.

Regarding the UI - I really have trouble reading Apple Maps. There is very little contrast (light grey streets and grey street names against a white background), and the street names are too small. Compare the same area of a city to Google Maps side by side and notice how much easier it is to see everything on Google Maps. It's classic Apple choosing form over function again, but it doesn't actually look cool, it's just worse.
 
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I've not had the issues others appear to have with Apple Maps - maybe if I do I'll look elsewhere.

That said I generally have a rough idea how to get to most places in the UK, so only use Maps for finding locations in the last few miles.
 
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