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I just don't care about emojis and all kinds of bobbles and jingles on my messages. Has everyone become a little girl all of a sudden?

Clearly Apple wants to get into the sticker business, or at least be a sticker storefront. It's huge sources of revenue for other chat apps, so not a surprise that Apple is jumping into the game. Stickers, emotion, and drawing do make messaging more fun. Great to see Apple adding their own twists to the experience.
 
No kidding. That's the first thing I thought of Monday. They are making a strong push to appeal to a younger demographic. Plus, aren't emoji more popular in Asia?

How many times did they mention China in that keynote?

I live in Asia, nobody uses iMessage. Line is king in many countries, I believe it's WeChat in China. Line has had stickers and so on for a long time.
 
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WhatsApp is integral for me, because it's platform agnostic. My family group alone consists of iPhone, Android and Windows Phone users. Bonus for it being available as a web and Desktop PC/Mac version.
Until iMessage gets to this level of transferability, I'm not going to advocate using it.
 
As someone who works with teenagers, I can say that while you may think these features are dumb, apple knows exactly what they're doing... They're not going after traditional "power users" here but instead the huge market of snapchat-using iPhone owners who will eat these features up.
psst.. not to mention the other countries in the world... the u.s. is not the only one, amiright? emoji was invented in asia after all.
 
these stickers and effects would have been fine in a separate app or being able to fully turn off the new graphical stuff. Snapchat is only used by certain groups and messages is used by all groups from kids to millennial to baby boomers which have the same quantity of smartphones as the millennials. There is a reason facebook stayed vs myspace, customization that can't be controlled to something standard by the visiting users killed it.
Facebook vs. myspace, with respect to customization and visiting users, is irrelevant here. Those sites are one to many, in a detached (write now and maybe someone will read later) manner. Messages is user-to-user, and immediate. And all that you have to do to not be bothered by emojis, stickers, and silly effects, is to: a) not use them yourself (it's not like Messages is going to continually prompt you that you're not using enough stickers), and b) request those with whom you are communicating to not use them. If they refuse to comply, shout obscenities at them and block their number so you won't be bothered by them or their stickers in the future. Really, this is a social issue, not a technological one. The app is fine. Apple is providing what (at least some - it appears many) users want. I don't expect I'll be using stickers much, but it doesn't bother me to have them available. If you find yourself getting stickers, sent to you by people you know and have elected to communicate with via person-to-person messaging, your problem is with those people, not with Apple. Insisting that, because you don't care for stickers and such, nobody should have access to them, is... kind of annoying.

Apple appears, this WWDC more than ever, to be providing features that users and developers have long wanted - more ways of funding apps (subscriptions), Siri for 3rd-party apps, CloudKit for non-MacAppStore apps, ability to hide stock apps on iOS, piles of improvements to the watchOS UI (including much faster launch times), the new filesystem, tabs in windows on macOS, single-sign-on and dark mode for tvOS, and... expanded message features (and 3rd party extensions) for Messages.
 
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I didn't think Messages would be overhauled like this. It seems they've done this so they can NOW make an Android app to draw in more users. Maybe put it out in an iOS 10.x release, then hopefully integrate Apple Pay by iOS 11.
 
it took this guy under 3 minutes while apple took about half of WWDC's keynote do explain this....
i guess we know where apple's priorities lay
 
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hmmmm..

It just seems like a waste to put so much effort in this, when what'sapp, wechat, sms, and other messaging apps are used by many more people than imessages.

Just seems like Apple missed it's opportunity to keep imessages relevant.
 
It just seems like a waste to put so much effort in this, when what'sapp, wechat, sms, and other messaging apps are used by many more people than imessages.

Just seems like Apple missed it's opportunity to keep imessages relevant.
You're right, they're only processing 200,000 iMessages per second - it's practically like nobody is using the service at all.
 
Those who don't get the point of all this are growing out of the market that Apple is targeting. Guess what? The world isn't targeted towards you anymore aka, you're getting old. I'm 36 and I won't use nearly any of these added features but I completely understand why they're there. The good news is that you can carry on writing plain texts.
 
Holy crap, everyone needs to calm down. If you don't want to use these features, then don't use them! The messaging app doesn't look much different if you use it as you always have. And I'd be surprised if Apple shipped it without the ability to toggle off receiving all the extras, and on the senders end it would just gray out those features when chatting to you.

Believe it or not, symbol-based communication is only going to gain popularity as it becomes a new, independent language. Have you guys not read any sci-fi novels, even from decades ago? This idea isn't new and it's a long time coming. It's a move towards universal communication across language barriers. I bet you guys sound a lot like the people on the early web. "You mean there's colors and photos now! This is so lame! Where is my plain hypertext list? Where is my command prompt for email??" Eventually everyone will be able to communicate symbolically with their mind projecting ideas which are formed into graphical depictions, independent of emoji.

Until then, just send your plain old text-only messages. I'm younger but I'm no kid either. I'll take what I want from these new features, such as the animated bubbles, larger emoji, payment feature, and quick reactions; and leave the rest like the stickers and flashy backgrounds—or at least save them for special occasions like birthdays. I suggest everyone else do the same and scale it back as you see fit. It won't hurt you one bit—I promise you'll survive!
 
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I bet you guys sound a lot like the people on the early web. "You mean there's colors and photos now! This is so lame! Where is my plain hypertext list? Where is my command prompt for email??"
What is this "web" and "hypertext" of which you speak? Why, in my day, we had Usenet news, and computers talked to each other over phone lines using UUCP, and if you wanted cat pictures in your messages you drew them with ASCII art. This "web" thing is just a fad that'll never catch on! ;-)
 
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I didn't think Messages would be overhauled like this. It seems they've done this so they can NOW make an Android app to draw in more users. Maybe put it out in an iOS 10.x release, then hopefully integrate Apple Pay by iOS 11.
Overhauled? It's just an addition of some features/options.

hmmmm..

It just seems like a waste to put so much effort in this, when what'sapp, wechat, sms, and other messaging apps are used by many more people than imessages.

Just seems like Apple missed it's opportunity to keep imessages relevant.
Why is it a waste to bring something that is becoming fairly widespread and almost the norm for a messaging app to have into a messaging app? How does it affect relevance, if not making it more relevant to more people?

Those who don't get the point of all this are growing out of the market that Apple is targeting. Guess what? The world isn't targeted towards you anymore aka, you're getting old. I'm 36 and I won't use nearly any of these added features but I completely understand why they're there. The good news is that you can carry on writing plain texts.
It's not like plenty of older people do something more with texts than just write text. So many unnecessary stereotypical generalizations.
 
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I really hope that's not the case. I don't want that crap showing up. I guess I'll have to start choosing friends more wisely...
5 out of 5 former friends whom you have run through with a sword, no longer send messages with stickers in them. Just sayin'. It's a people problem, not a technological one.
 
5 out of 5 former friends whom you have run through with a sword, no longer send messages with stickers in them. Just sayin'. It's a people problem, not a technological one.

Yeah but sometimes when the cookie jar is open on the counter, one can't resist. Even though one shouldn't....

For the record, it's probably not something my friends would do often. And I'm pretty sure Apple will have a few restrictions by the time the GM gets close.
 
I'm all for it they have tim cook's bruised faced, eddie being fired emoji expression, and craig's lack of intelligent emoji.
I also want Jony Ive thin face emoji...since he's so obsessed with thinness.
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As someone who works with teenagers, I can say that while you may think these features are dumb, apple knows exactly what they're doing... They're not going after traditional "power users" here but instead the huge market of snapchat-using iPhone owners who will eat these features up.
Kind of scary with phil said during interview that apple love kids.......
 
This mentality is why the guy who runs snapchat is rolling in mountains of money while you're here complaining about how dumb his type of product is.
Hitler made a lot of money, what's your point? (I could've said Bill Gates, but Godwin's law.)
This. Or you could replace Snapchat with WhatsApp. If Apple didn't update iMessages like they did, they'd basically be saying "whelp, we don't want to compete in that space any longer."
They are no longer competing, because now iMessage is the same bloated mess, except it doesn't run on Android.
They are making a strong push to appeal to a younger demographic. Plus, aren't emoji more popular in Asia?
No. And since when do young people care about Mickey Mouse? This is an old mans idea of what young people might want. Balloons and Firework? Gosh!
 
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OMG. How about fixing the most basic stuff first? Standard sms receipt is still not working (unless you manually type a specific string in front of every sms. Moreover, the string differs according to the carrier network). Even the most basic archaic phones can do this properly!

Regarding these new rich messages: If you are not connected to the internet, a message is sent as a sms (or mms in case of an image). What happens now? If I am not mistaken mms does not support this (quite useless) "enhancements"...
 
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