I already quoted price as one of many reasons why people ignore Apple outside of the USA. Once again, most people don't care enough about their phone or the manufacturers 'eco-system' enough for that premium price each year. They want messaging and photos and will go where that's delivered best for the money they wish to spend.I think you underestimate grossly how many people have multiple Apple products, and you citing an example of someone you know who willynilly bought a Pixel 6a is anecdotal.
And let’s be honest, Android out sells Apple in Europe and Asia almost entirely due to the amount of cheap Android phones are available. Period. Apple is expensive everywhere.
What Android phone has better messaging? And what cheaper Android phone has objectively as-good or “better” photos? Where price isn’t a factor, ecosystems do matter and Apple wins here.I already quoted price as one of many reasons why people ignore Apple outside of the USA.
Most people don't care enough about their phones or 'eco-systems' they want messaging and photos.
iPhone and their premium is simply not worth it when you get better from cheap Android.
Hence why they are outsold 2 to 1.
Once Apple are forced to adopt RCS messaging, like they are USB-C I imagine it will start to change in USA too...
Anti-competitive behaviour isn't the way forwards IMHO.
What Android phone has better messaging? And what cheaper Android phone has objectively as-good or “better” photos? Where price isn’t a factor, ecosystems do matter and Apple wins here.
The Pixels do not have objectively better cameras, they have areas where they are better and others where they’re worse. And the rest of the world who are buying Android are absolutely not buying Pixels. People who don’t care about ecosystems buy Android solely because of price alone. Not because they have better features. WhatsApp is also not objectively better than messages, particularly with new changes in iOS 16.WhatsApp is better than iMessage and Pixel series has better camera's with better features. And all for less money.
Granted, these have far worse eco-systems; but clearly not a factor for the rest of the world as 70% of the population use Android and iOS is 27%
Next?
I do think the cameras on the 7/7 Pro look awesome, and the tablet with the speaker base is really awesome. I’d instantly buy a magnetic speaker base for my iPad were Apple to make one.The Google stuff looks really good. The 7 Pro will probably have the best camera out there and for sure beat the Apple's 14 Pro in terms of features (actual optical zoom...)
The watch looks very nice but personally I don't care about these devices in need of daily charging, having a Garmin.
The tablet and its magnetic base with speakers is also cool. Google really stepped up this year, not sure why, it's not like they make money selling this stuff.
People who don’t care about ecosystems buy Android solely because of price alone. Not because they have better features. WhatsApp is also not objectively better than messages, particularly with new changes in iOS 16.
Outstanding.They should be arrested for embezelment.
I'll see myself out ...
I see what you did there.Come on, lets face it who doesnt want a smaller screen ?
Well it's better at some things for sure, like the ease of sending documents (which are later available per contact in a separate section). When you do business or actual work that's very helpful.WhatsApp is also not objectively better than messages, particularly with new changes in iOS 16.
To answer your question, no I’m not that arrogant, but just stating the obvious. Are you also arrogant enough to make the statement people choose Android because of better features for less money? What features are better on these cheap Androids? Customizable settings? What is it? And you contradict yourself when you literally said “price is one of the reasons people choose Android”. We know that people can get a camera and ability to message on an Android for very cheap all across Europe and Asia where Android sells better. It’s pricing as the main driver, and you know this.How on earth can you speak for a few billion people? Are you that arrogant to assume you know their motivations behind the personal purchases of a few billion people?
Don't have better features? That's absurd. Everyone has their own reasons for using whatever they use; seldom is it price.
You have zero knowledge of anyone's purchasing motivations.
Honestly, this forum attracts the worst of the Apple bunch.
Fair points that I was not aware of. 👍Well it's better at some things for sure, like the ease of sending documents (which are later available per contact in a separate section). When you do business or actual work that's very helpful.
And of course it doesn't lock you to a particular platform. You can use it on Android, on iOS, it's got desktop clients for Windows and MacOS etc.
I can't believe I'm defending a product owned by Zuckerberg but WhatsApp was developed by smart guys and there's a good reason why it's the most popular messaging platform worldwide.
Plus, if you have data access it's completely free. My very first time using iMessage I got stung with international SMS costs which were utterly unexpected given that I and my interlocutor were both on WiFi, using iPhones.
Honestly, one of the worst releases Google has had in years.
$350?!!!! Any iPhone owner who buys this over an Apple Watch is an absolute fool! You can actually get an Apple Watch for cheaper than this that still has a bigger screen!
I genuinely expected this to come in right around $199, maybe $249, but that price for such middling performance is just silly unless you must have a Google branded watch for whatever weird reason.
A great feature for me that pushed me towards the Pixel was its speech recognition software, especially across multiple languages. If you live in a bi/trilingual household where not everyone speaks the same languages, having on-device translation/transcription is invaluable. Coincidentally, I live in Asia.To answer your question, no I’m not that arrogant, but just stating the obvious. Are you also arrogant enough to make the statement people choose Android because of better features for less money? What features are better on these cheap Androids? Customizable settings? What is it? And you contradict yourself when you literally said “price is one of the reasons people choose Android”. We know that people can get a camera and ability to message on an Android for very cheap all across Europe and Asia where Android sells better. It’s pricing as the main driver, and you know this.
To answer your question, no I’m not that arrogant, but just stating the obvious. Are you also arrogant enough to make the statement people choose Android because of better features for less money? What features are better on these cheap Androids? Customizable settings? What is it? And you contradict yourself when you literally said “price is one of the reasons people choose Android”. We know that people can get a camera and ability to message on an Android for very cheap all across Europe and Asia where Android sells better. It’s pricing as the main driver, and you know this.
"ecosystems" suck and are a byproduct of lazy.I’ve used Android. It’s been a while, and there are great features. The Pixel cameras have been incredibly good since the start. Now that they are doing more in the way of branding their whole lineup of products, it’s probably the best ecosystem next to Apple. Problem is, it’s Google, and I don’t want to be that locked in to Google. Google and Samsung both have great ecosystems and products, but it’s not for me. I prefer iOS and macOS. And Apple has rejuvenated my enthusiasm with the Watch Ultra. It’s my favorite Apple product I own at the momen
That’s a factor of the current market participants. The Apple Watch now doesn’t have a huge bezel, so the product Google just released is getting compared to the Apple Watch and, concerning bezels, they’re actually physically bigger.You can look up every news report about the Apple Watch, nobody complained about the bezels as much as now. That's a fact.
Although it’s cheaper than the Pro Max with almost comparable parts.google hardware is terrible