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Make no mistake, Apple is betting that the iPad Pro is going to be the future of computing. Calling it a super computer, incremental iOS updates that are used on (dock, file system), changing of OSX to macOS, furthering their own chips. I don't think it will be too much longer before they wave goodbye to their UNIX base, say goodbye to Intel, and get rid of the traditional laptop as we know it.

If they drop UNIX (which I personally don't think will happen, but this is Timmy's Apple), I could see a lot of devs getting pissed. They rely on that UNIX base for a lot of command-line level stuff.
 
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Which model iPad was used for this video? 9.7 pro or 10.5 pro? Everything seemed pretty snappy if it was still the older 9.7 pro.
 
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Which older iPad model?

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iPad Air, November 2013. The lag is significant, very noticeable when scrolling or opening apps. Presumably Apple will optimize it by the time the public beta comes along.

As I said, iOS 11 failed to impress me much, but maybe I am just in a bad mood today....

I've preordered a new 12.9" Pro, I'll try it on it too.
 
This may be the pattern going forward with iOS for iPad. Focus mostly on the iPad every other year. Remember 2 years ago we got multitasking for iPad, and absolutely nothing last year (which was disappointing).
 
I like the expanded features, but seriously, how can anyone be expected to remember all these gestures? It's hard enough to remember 3D touch sometimes.

Man it's funny. I feel like I'm listening to an android fanboy that cry cry cry about the lack of iOS features now to the point there are too many features.

I've always said the majority of people that whine will never ever even remotely use the added uses of these devices and here's one..
 
I took a moment to watch a slightly more recent concept of iOS 11 on iPad. Drag and drop are almost the same. Shelf is converted to another form. New dock feature, Finder with the name of Files. Well, pretty good concept back then.
 
Haters are gonna hate (and I did my fare share), but the iPad is finally starting to look like a possible laptop replacement. Don't get me wrong, we're talking about MacBook/Air replacement, as I'd never give up a Pro for any type of tablet.

I own multiple iPads including the iPad 12.9 and this is FAR from a real laptop replacement.

Biggest issue still failing on the iPad: can't read data from a simple USB thumb drive or any USB storage device. Wireless AP storage units do not count. Dragging and dropping is a big deal but that should've been included starting from iOS 7. Much ado about nothing; readdle apps (documents) and filebrowser (business) can even do more than this more than a year ago (allowing AFP/SMB/SFTP/NAS support). This is just apple playing catchup and a lot of the iPad functionality is frankenstein features. Look at the control center it's a friggin' ugly mess. All that wasted space on the home screen as well. Nothing you can customize and yet you waste 2732-by-2048 resolution making it exactly like a scaled up iPhone interface.

If you can run 3 apps, you can run 4 and more. All these limitations are just apple nickel and diming y'all (including myself). The day the iPad gets respect is when you can actually use the screen real estate allowing customizations....dragging and dropping links and images is so basic this should've been available years ago!
 
I kinda was afraid this would only be iPad Pro stuff. But maybe it should be kept to iPad Pro so people who want a simple iPad can be left alone.
 
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Man it's funny. I feel like I'm listening to an android fanboy that cry cry cry about the lack of iOS features now to the point there are too many features.

I've always said the majority of people that whine will never ever even remotely use the added uses of these devices and here's one..

You are half right. I use both, although a couple of years ago I switched to an Android phone, mainly because Apple's camera stagnated and lost ground after the iPhone 6+. I am using a Galaxy S7 Edge now and am happy overall -- happy enough not to be upgrading to the S8.

I like some of the customization: the ability to choose a launcher is great, as developers can introduce new features and themes without waiting for Google. Many of these are terrible, but some are really great (I have settled on Nova Launcher). I also like the ability to change themes/icons at times.

Similarly with widgets (I know iOS has them, but I like the Android implementation better) -- most are pointless, but I personally like having a large clock/weather widget on the main screen and stuff like LIFX scenes widget and Google Music on my second screen.

Small stuff, like long-press for secondary symbol keys on the keyboard has been around on Android for a while, I am glad Apple is introducing it in iOS 11.

Overall though, I personally see iOS as mostly playing catch up over the last few years.
 
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Apple Pencil support is also expanding in iOS 11. The Apple Pencil can be used systemwide like any other stylus (or a finger), and there are new features that have been designed with the Apple Pencil in mind, including Instant Markup, which allows essentially anything to be annotated, and inline drawing within Mail and Notes.

Really? After all of Steve Jobs massive caterwauling and gnashing of teeth about using a stylus to control the OS/UI. Oh the irony.
 
which iPads could possibly have enough ram to run split screen, dock, drag and drop etc? Seems like a bunch of older hardware is going to come to a crawl because Apple failed through so many generations to increase the memory

Not really a bunch. The minimum device to get the split screen features was already the Mini 4. So these features are really only on the Mini 4, Air 2, and the Pros. And only the > 10" Pros with 4 GB will get 3 apps running all at once (2 in split, 1 in the sort of "window"). There are 2 sets of compatible iPads with these features. Those with 2GB and those with 4. And things seem just fine on those with 2GB. I don't think having the Dock and Drag & Drop represents that much more of a memory load than having two simultaneous apps.

QUESTION!

If you have an app in your dock that does not support slide-over/split-screen, what does it do you attempt to drag that app from the dock to the "slide over" area.

Does it not do anything? Does it replace the whole screen with a full-size app?

It replaces the whole screen with a full-size app.

I own multiple iPads including the iPad 12.9 and this is FAR from a real laptop replacement.

Biggest issue still failing on the iPad: can't read data from a simple USB thumb drive or any USB storage device.

Wireless AP storage units do not count. Dragging and dropping is a big deal but that should've been included starting from iOS 7. Much ado about nothing; readdle apps (documents) and filebrowser (business) can even do more than this more than a year ago (allowing AFP/SMB/SFTP/NAS support). This is just apple playing catchup and a lot of the iPad functionality is frankenstein features. Look at the control center it's a friggin' ugly mess. All that wasted space on the home screen as well. Nothing you can customize and yet you waste 2732-by-2048 resolution making it exactly like a scaled up iPhone interface.

If you can run 3 apps, you can run 4 and more. All these limitations are just apple nickel and diming y'all (including myself). The day the iPad gets respect is when you can actually use the screen real estate allowing customizations....dragging and dropping links and images is so basic this should've been available years ago!

Yep, complaining when Apple doesn't add anything new. Complaining when they do. Heh. Complaining that Control center isn't customizable and can't do enough. Now it's too customizable and can do too much.

"Much ado about nothing"? Can't tell if you're serious about that- system-wide first party support for a feature, with APIs, is a huge deal and means we'll soon have it pretty much universally supported. And in terms of "catchup", yes, literally every improvement Apple or Google or Microsoft ever adds should've been there in the previous version. But at least we have it now. Ironically- you can do a few types of drag actions that aren't even available on macOS due to the single pointer limitation. :)

Hopefully Files will be the basis for adding more file storage access. At the very least, they could allow an extension point so those MFI lightning Flash/USB drives will work with it instead of launching the silly apps.
 
Haters are gonna hate (and I did my fare share), but the iPad is finally starting to look like a possible laptop replacement. Don't get me wrong, we're talking about MacBook/Air replacement, as I'd never give up a Pro for any type of tablet.
Pro is for intense processing, whether graphically or task-wise (data analysis, multitasking beyond belief, etc.). Apple knows they need actual computers.

It's the 95% of the computer-using population that tablets can replace and better their computer use.
 
Good job, Apple! They're listening. The OS makes sense now and it's good to see developers like Affinity making full iOS versions of their software. Now... Ditch the home button, slap an OLED screen in there, go wireless charging, USB-C, and we'll have reached tablet nirvana. 2018?
 
I like the expanded features, but seriously, how can anyone be expected to remember all these gestures? It's hard enough to remember 3D touch sometimes.
I agree. I really like my iPhone & iPad Air 2, but as my desktop Mac is my primary use, I feel that sometimes I am overwhelmed with all that the iDevices can do. I appreciate what they are capable of, but sometimes I wonder if it's just too much.
 
Make no mistake, Apple is betting that the iPad Pro is going to be the future of computing. Calling it a super computer, incremental iOS updates that are used on (dock, file system), changing of OSX to macOS, furthering their own chips. I don't think it will be too much longer before they wave goodbye to their UNIX base, say goodbye to Intel, and get rid of the traditional laptop as we know it.
I really do not think we will see the end of macOS or Unix any time soon.

A large number of consumers may be using iOS (and I am very happy to see these updates in iOS 11 that help increase workflow and productivity on the iPad) but desktop/laptop computers will always exist - they need to have the power to create whatever it is the customer is using (video, software, virtual/augmented reality, et cetera).

There are some jobs I can't imagine doing on a touchscreen, like editing a multi-cam video with eight feeds or GUI programming.
 
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couple of questions

1) Is CMD+shift behavior the same? How does it look when switching to a split screen app?

2) What happens if you CMD+shift with a slide over window? Does the slide over persist? It is kind of nice in iOS 10 how the right app stays. Sometimes you want messages/twitter/etc to stay even when switching between apps
 
Man it's funny. I feel like I'm listening to an android fanboy that cry cry cry about the lack of iOS features now to the point there are too many features.

I've always said the majority of people that whine will never ever even remotely use the added uses of these devices and here's one..
What? How can you apply your own (wrong) assumptions to my post and come to a ridiculous conclusion based on that? Clearly my signature shows I have a diverse collection of Apple devices and I've never even used an Android device. And how does declaring my interest in the new features equate to me having whined about iOS not having enough features in the past? To be clear, I've never expressed my desire for more features in iOS outside of simple things like wishing Apple would include the Calculator and Stocks app on the iPad (which I still think is ridiculous that they don't). Beyond that, I use a real computer to do real computer things.
 
Make no mistake, Apple is betting that the iPad Pro is going to be the future of computing. Calling it a super computer, incremental iOS updates that are used on (dock, file system), changing of OSX to macOS, furthering their own chips. I don't think it will be too much longer before they wave goodbye to their UNIX base, say goodbye to Intel, and get rid of the traditional laptop as we know it.
Considering the way they "remembered about" the Mac Pro after a few years of pro users threatening to leave Apple's eco system (and many already have), I don't think Apple is likely to go all-iOS. I probably would have believed you a year or two ago, but it looks like Apple is realizing the mistakes they tend to make.
 
Really? After all of Steve Jobs massive caterwauling and gnashing of teeth about using a stylus to control the OS/UI. Oh the irony.

Not to sound like I'm defending Jobs (cause really I don't give a ****) but I think he was referring to the days when we had to pull out a stylus to select objects on the old resistive touch screens (e.g. the old windows mobile phones). Jobs helped to push tech towards capacitive touch and selecting objects with our fingers, eliminating the need for a stylus. The iPad Pro still doesn't need a pencil/stylus to control the UI, it's just there to augment it like a mouse or keyboard. The fact that the pencil couldn't manipulate the OS previously (I presume, as I haven't spent much time with the pencil/ipad pro) seems stupid, and it only seems natural that once it's in your hand, you can use it in lieu of your finger. Steve's sentiment remains, however, in that you don't actually need the pencil to navigate the iPad Pro.
 
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