Hands-On With iOS 27's Siri AI

[Kramerjn]

Spoiler: these people haven't actually used it. Or they used with it with the intention of validating their negative preconceptions.

It reminds me of the people who post about new video games on launch day and say "I just rolled the end credits, and the game was pure garbage." They played the game not for enjoyment, but for the attention of being first to trash it on the internet.

It's not too bad for a first beta iteration. I had a conversation with it while driving, asking about how much regfrigerant should go into my car and what psi to set it at when the ambient temp is 86. It did a good job reading things back to me without me needing to look at the screen. Traditionally I'd have used Gemini for this, but being able to do it with Siri and not have to launch an app was nice.

For me, I'll just keep testing the limits and using it for what it works for. It really doesn't make my life any worse if it doesn't do something I already can't do with it.

 

[Insert_Username_Here]

Siri has never been anything more than a voice activated egg timer (and not even a good one) to me. I’d be willing to bet it’s no different for a SIGNIFICANT amount of iPhone users.

 

[JoeShades]

Spoiler: these people haven't actually used it. Or they used with it with the intention of validating their negative preconceptions.

It reminds me of the people who post about new video games on launch day and say "I just rolled the end credits, and the game was pure garbage." They played the game not for enjoyment, but for the attention of being first to trash it on the internet.

Not sure who is worse, these people or the ones that come into a siri Ai thread just to tell us they have no interest in SIRI or AI, narcissism at work here

 

[963852741]

**** assetsv2 folder. In this case i'm happy a feature is not available.

 

[OnePieceIsReal]

I just got it asked questions and it’s stalls on working

 

[GrumpyOldGuy52]

Still not the Knowledge Navigator.

(And I say this wanting Siri to be the Knowledge Navigator.)

 

[TVreporter]

So this essentially wants you to keep saving messages - taking up storage. Then youll need to upgrade or buy more iCloud

Ternus you’re making Tim proud already!

 

[spazzcat]

I just got it asked questions and it’s stalls on working

You know you installed a beta 1?

 

[dtich]

I've had access since early this morning.

a) its auto-correction is horrible.
b) it can't generate results in any type of .doc or .pdf
c) its functionality is ridiculously limited compared to Claude, ChatGPT, Gemini, etc.
d) results seem to scrape from popular sites over relevance to query
e) I asked it what its own top capabilities were. LOL - it referenced 3 popular HR sites and gave me a mini-breakdown ln a format expected in a job interview.
f) I asked it, just now, for a recipe. The damn thing (spoken request) will only tell me about recipes - it won't give me an actual recipe for what I specifically requested. I can't even tap on the result and click-through to a full recipe.

and.. I'm out. This is a gimmick, still, at this point. Let's hope its system integration is where it shines.

respectfully, and obviously you can do whatever you want, but you are not the target audience for a beta of a major framework like this. you are an end-user with no tolerance for variable functionality, awareness of the difference between UX polish and underlying capabilities and structure, and your comments are frankly not very helpful to the devs. perhaps your comments are interesting to other consumers on this board, fair enough, but the opinions you render pretty much miss the point of the current state of review this software is in entirely. have fun tho.

 

[SeanSpreadsRumors]

I just got it asked questions and it’s stalls on working

You're on beta version 1 on day 2 of it's existence! 😂😂😂😂😂😂

 

[OnePieceIsReal]

You're on beta version 1 on day 2 of it's existence! 😂😂😂😂😂😂

Nah just saying it still the same old Siri I’m just waiting for it to say “uhh” “hhmm”

 

[MonkeyT]

Still not the Knowledge Navigator.

(And I say this wanting Siri to be the Knowledge Navigator.)

I'm not going to jump to that conclusion yet. The almost-live demo executed most of the tasks the Knowledge Navigator concept did in the video, other than rendering a realistic human avatar in real time, which I'm sure hardware will be able to do in another year or two. Apple even has a foldable screen in the near pipeline. I suspect that they used the video to build the initial checklist of things they wanted to include in this introductory demo, and I'm looking forward to a task by task competition once the software leaves beta.

 

[jicon]

I'm using a 15Pro, and I dunno... I don't have a Siri standalone app. when activating Siri, the rainbow color still continues around edge of the screen... and what I asked just told me what it found on the web.

Is this country specific, or needing a 17Pro right now?

The photo AI works, so some of the AI enhancements are there, but this one... yeah, I have no chat available in Canada.

Edit: Figured it out... This IS country specific. Limited to USA.

 

[gagaliya]

Siri could’ve been an industry leader if Tim Cook hadn’t foolishly fired Scott Forstall just one year after it was released. Siri, while problematic upon initial release, was ahead of its time. Forstall is a visionary and a perfectionist on a Steve Jobs-like level, and Cook was too clueless and mediocre to recognize that. Forstall’s perfectionism would’ve likely ironed out the kinks in Siri over a decade ago, and thus set the stage for it being an industry leader today, instead of lagging behind.

He was fired for the disaster rollout of Apple map wasn’t it, if he is such a perfectionist and visionary how did Apple map get released under his watch in the state it was in, I remember how utterly terrible it was.

 

[Marvin_nz]

He was fired for the disaster rollout of Apple map wasn’t it, if he is such a perfectionist and visionary how did Apple map get released under his watch in the state it was in, I remember how utterly terrible it was.

don't forget that eye assaulting UI on the phone under him.

 

[conmee]

Maybe it's just the news cycle (or Liquid Glass) causing me to see things, but I thought the lead image said "Hamas On" when I first glanced at it.

 

[dominiongamma]

I’ll stick with Gemini, I felt even after the presentation Apple took 3 steps backwards with Siri maybe even made it worse then before

 

[applebro]

I'm sure it will be as good as apple intelligence....lol

 

[Deanster]

I mean, it can't be worse than current Siri, who routinely fails to play and shuffle a playlist called 'infectious songs' when I ask 'hey siri, shuffle playlist infectious songs'. This request also won't run without a solid internet connection, though it's a command that has been part of Siri's features since the first day it was baked into iOS.

Siri is and has been laughably bad at the very most basic tasks so long I actively avoid using it.

 

[Macalway]

I’ll stick with Gemini, I felt even after the presentation Apple took 3 steps backwards with Siri maybe even made it worse then before

Yes, now we are getting somewhere. Bring back the old Siri!

 

[svish]

Good video. Happy with the improvements. Waiting to try it out.

 

[ipedro]

I've had access since early this morning.

a) its auto-correction is horrible.
b) it can't generate results in any type of .doc or .pdf
c) its functionality is ridiculously limited compared to Claude, ChatGPT, Gemini, etc.
d) results seem to scrape from popular sites over relevance to query
e) I asked it what its own top capabilities were. LOL - it referenced 3 popular HR sites and gave me a mini-breakdown ln a format expected in a job interview.
f) I asked it, just now, for a recipe. The damn thing (spoken request) will only tell me about recipes - it won't give me an actual recipe for what I specifically requested. I can't even tap on the result and click-through to a full recipe.

and.. I'm out. This is a gimmick, still, at this point. Let's hope its system integration is where it shines.

It almost sounds like you're describing a developer beta... oh wait. 🤔

 

[mrgraff]

Not quite there, yet

 

[CapitalIdea]

I've had access since early this morning.

a) its auto-correction is horrible.
b) it can't generate results in any type of .doc or .pdf
c) its functionality is ridiculously limited compared to Claude, ChatGPT, Gemini, etc.
d) results seem to scrape from popular sites over relevance to query
e) I asked it what its own top capabilities were. LOL - it referenced 3 popular HR sites and gave me a mini-breakdown ln a format expected in a job interview.
f) I asked it, just now, for a recipe. The damn thing (spoken request) will only tell me about recipes - it won't give me an actual recipe for what I specifically requested. I can't even tap on the result and click-through to a full recipe.

and.. I'm out. This is a gimmick, still, at this point. Let's hope its system integration is where it shines.

Works for me. Pulled up a recipe. Told me about its new capabilities. Results to my queries have pretty much all been relevant. Even gave me a breakdown of my macros based on the dinner I cooked. Not bad for a PRE-BETA product. Seems the problem isn’t Siri.

 

[CapitalIdea]

They should've kept the initial ways of invoking Siri as the standard (side button, and double tapping on the bottom of the screen). Having to reach up to the dynamic island is already finger gymnastics as it is, but also as you stated it will smudge your front camera time and time again lol... Granted the aforementioned methods of invoking Siri are still present (At least I want to say they still are) so it's not THAT big of a deal. Though in my opinion it's just not very thoughtful design choice/ergonomic to move yet another point of contact all the way up on the top part of the display when we interact with the bottom part of the display significantly more throughout the day than with the top (especially the dynamic island)...

You only need to use the Dynamic Island while inside an app to avoid conflicting with scrolling gestures (for example, in Safari). From the home screen, you can simply pull down from the middle of the display to open the search window. Hardly a case of finger gymnastics or some ergonomic apocalypse.