I'm definitely the target for this. I just can't decide on the 11" or the 13"
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Hands-On With iPad Pro in Space Black: Apple's Thinnest Product Ever
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Agree 100%, it's a weird obsession people have. However, a 4:3 ratio "Macbook" would be amazing... for that reason alone I would use an iPad running MacOS. Apple's never going to do it though.
I can get behind this. A small netbook type of thing. But yeah, I just don't get why people want to use an iPad for MacBook things. And of course, I can already see that if Apple just caved in and put MacOS on an iPad, people start to complain that it was just way to small and that it wasn't optimized very well for touch. You would never make everyone happy.
Hmmm... yeah looks like it doesn't? Apple is anxious for their next "-gate" controversy I guess. I have a Bryant keyboard case for my Pro, it is aluminum and has two little rubber bumpers for when it closes.
13” iPad, 13” MacBook Air. Screen size is the same on either device. I don’t hold my Air 8” from my face or my Air.
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It wouldn't be the first time. Apple drops all inconvenient facts straight down the memory hole. They've completely, drastically replaced hardware models within the same calendar year.
That said, I doubt it's getting macOS.
Besides that I don't trust thin products from Apple, I would be more happy with the omission of the camera bump.
Do you think the weight difference will be noticeable from 1.42 lbs to 1.28 lbs? They are both still a lot heavier than my 2018 10.5" iPad Pro, which weighs 1.03 lbs.
I'd like to know the total weight of the 11" and 13" when used with their respective Magic Keyboards.
I'd like to know how the weight and footprint compare to a 13 inch m2 air.
They’re adding more iPad-like touch targets to macOS, changing the settings, adding Stage Manager… I’d imagine at some point, likely towards the end of macOS, they’ll have an iPad form factor that will just run macOS (because it won’t make financial sense to continue to make macOS hardware unique… just like it doesn’t make financial sense to NOT use iPad CPU’s in Macs). There will be a touchscreen on a MacBook then, but there won’t be many that will want them. Developers making apps for other Apple products, definitely, but the iPad already outsells macOS 2:1, that trend is likely to continue.
You wouldn’t? While a lot of music software creators have jumped into the iPad pool like Fruity Loops, Steinberg, Audio Modeling, there are those like Ableton that have only dipped their toe into this growing market. It remains to be seen if they will sit on the sidelines or will if they will, for example, take the work they’ve already done to get Ableton running on Apple Silicon and make that available for iPads.
Don't disagree on the whole but Apple made this problem when they started trying to turn it into a laptop and then ran out of bottle where it counts - IO and a full-fat operating system. iPad is great as just an iPad but the moment you start using it more and more like a pseudo laptop you realize you still need both. And of course that's intentional because New Apple is about money first and product second. Hey ho.
I've considered dropping back to the Air now that there's a 13" version, but the lack of Face ID kills it. I have an iPad mini with the edge-button touch ID, and it's really finnicky.
I think it’s more that the iPad form factor is SO very cool, they’d also like a cool form factor rather than what Apple’s providing with their laptops.
Anyone being honest should acknowledge that a substantial reduction in size and weight is a meaningful upgrade for this product - especially while improving performance that was probably already overkill for most use cases, as it has been since M1.
I have one use case for 13", and that's to use forScore for sheet music. In portrait mode, it's essentially a full-size page equivalent to printed music, and I can annotate (and change annotations) without pencil smudge. Bu having gone 13" for that, the larger iPad is a pleasure to use. Without having a compelling use case, though, 13" is a few extra dollars, though.
Speak for yourself. All things being equal (durability, battery life, etc), having my portable devices as thin and light as possible is very high up on my list of wants.
When you travel as much as I do and hold the device in your hands as long as I do, every milligram counts.
More lighter and more thinner please!
Within the next 2 weeks I’m sure I’ll watch an absurd video of someone cracking one like an egg, but it looks pretty neat.