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“Notably, macOS Catalina does away with 32-bit app support, so some of your older apps are going to stop working. The operating system will let you know which apps are now defunct once you upgrade.”
Why can’t they tell you BEFORE you do the upgrade...? Time Machine does the same thing with backups it deletes. It tells you AFTER it deletes them...
Your name betrays you.

Everyone who likes tech has known for years.
macOS has told you on previous versions about their deprecation.
 
Can someone test & answer the following? Will previously downloaded iTunes content (i.e movies, music, and TV shoes) be automatically transferred over into these apps?

I have slow rural internet and it took months to download my iTunes library of 350+ movies. The thought of having to re-download is a nightmare.
I assume you don’t need to re-download them. My music library gets carried over easily.
Time Machine does the same thing with backups it deletes. It tells you AFTER it deletes them...
Guess I cannot connect my time machine backup drive to my Mac until I finish testing iOS 13 then.
 
The real question is this – WHY END 32-BIT SUPPORT??
Because continuing to support mixed 32 and 64 bit apps in an OS which is natively 64 bit adds complexity throughout the OS which makes the whole thing slower, bloatier and use more memory and resources. Services, libraries, frameworks all have to support being usable by 32 and 64 bit apps. Apple started the 64 bit transition over 10 years ago, they've warned about compatibility for the last few years, now it's time to reap the benefits of being 64 bit .. before of course someone introduces a 128bit processor and we all do it all over again.
 
I would use Apple Mail exclusively if it had the same ability as Outlook for Mac to separate my emails by day received. Sucks scrolling and scrolling to find a day an email was received.
 
What about installing 3rd party apps, will this still be allowed?
Also what happens when you upgrade with an older adobe cs product installed. Does it continue to work?
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The most notable feature is 32 bit apps will not run at all.
They should allow 32 bit libraries to be installed as needed. We did that with 64 bit ubuntu, had to run an old binary and just compiled/installed needed libraries.
 
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Under Tim Cook, all the latest MacOS updates have been bean counter updates, which machines to not support to encourage new Mac sales while offering less and less new features while deleting old ones willy nilly. so now I have to get rid of all my 32 bit apps for nor particular reason? I think not. It's about time that people stand up to this computer authoritarianism.

I mean, I don't think any of my Mac games are 64 bit. I'm not throwing away stuff I paid for just because Timmy thinks it's a great new feature. I didn't like it when Steve Jobs did it either, but he always had something cool enough to weigh in favor or it. Not so with bean counter Timmy. :(
 
Just because you know Timmy was predicting it does not mean you liked it or approved or agreed. I think this will be one of the the most poorly accepted MacOS update in decades. We'll see who's right. :D

Necessity is the greatest motivator. Developers will have to update if they want to stay in the picture. Seems the only ones that won't are the ones not doing any improvements anyway. I for one am grateful that Apple wants to keep progress going, instead of keeping a boat anchor strapped to the OS.
 
I've been looking for an excuse / reason to get an iPad. I think Sidebar will do it.

I am loving Sidecar! I think the freaks that like Surface have had this already. However, when Apple deploys something they always do a better job. So far it's running smoothly for me.
 
My main concern is what will be REMOVED with the new update. I am on Sierra now with my 2013 MBP and Hackintosh, with my trusty 2007 MBP running El Cap.

My business requires Microsoft, despite my best attempts to convert the office to LibreOffice. We do enough Powerpoint that we need the real deal to be compatible with our circle of partners.

I need to see if I can get my hands on a 64 bit version of Office 2011 Mac. I do not want 2013 or 2016 or 365. The newer Offices are slow and crummy. I responded to company requests to move to 2016, and most of those people asked me to move them back to Office 2010 Windows.

I really wish Sidecar could be backported to Sierra.

Most importantly, Diablo II is 32 bit. Deal breaker.

Cyberdoc
 
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[doublepost=1559778889][/doublepost]I hope the 'Finder' device system will still function with all the older devices like they do in iTunes.
I still have a working iPod shuffle 1GB from 2006 that still works and I use.
Works just fine with my 2009 iPod Classic so I’m certain any iDevices that worked before still will :)
 
I like the Finder integration when you plug your phone in and sync.

If there is one thing that grinds my gears the most, is plunging in "just to charge", but iTunes pops up on screen

My main concern is what will be REMOVED with the new update. I am on Sierra now with my 2013 MBP and Hackintosh, with my trusty 2007 MBP running El Cap.

My business requires Microsoft, despite my best attempts to convert the office to LibreOffice. We do enough Powerpoint that we need the real deal to be compatible with our circle of partners.

I need to see if I can get my hands on a 64 bit version of Office 2011 Mac. I do not want 2013 or 2016 or 365. The newer Offices are slow and crummy. I responded to company requests to move to 2016, and most of those people asked me to move them back to Office 2010 Windows.

I really wish Sidecar could be backported to Sierra.

Most importantly, Diablo II is 32 bit. Deal breaker.

Cyberdoc


You can get 'one time purchase' of Office 2019 that doesn't require cloud subscription for use.
 
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Because continuing to support mixed 32 and 64 bit apps in an OS which is natively 64 bit adds complexity throughout the OS which makes the whole thing slower, bloatier and use more memory and resources. Services, libraries, frameworks all have to support being usable by 32 and 64 bit apps. Apple started the 64 bit transition over 10 years ago, they've warned about compatibility for the last few years, now it's time to reap the benefits of being 64 bit .. before of course someone introduces a 128bit processor and we all do it all over again.
Seems that Microsoft Windows still support 32 and 64 bit apps as usual, and still tons of people writing apps for windows.
Many Linux distro still includes 32bit support. We will see.
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I like the Finder integration when you plug your phone in and sync.

If there is one thing that grinds my gears the most, is plunging in "just to charge", but iTunes pops up on screen

My iTunes never popped up when I just wanted to “charge”. But now the Catalina initiate a sync that cannot be cancelled. Fortunately nothing was damaged.
 
I used to be excited about new releases when they came out with cool new features. The last 5-6 years, the main phrase is “under the hood” and refined.
 
The question is, how do we manage regular playlists on something like the 4th generation iPod shuffle via Finder?
How about smart playlists on iPhones?

This is an important question that I have been wondering about. Will I still be able to manage my iPad mini 2 and iPod Touch gen 6, or my iPod nano gen 6 (the best nano they ever made IMHO). I've long since given up on my 1st gen iPad and 2nd gen touch.
 
The question is, how do we manage regular playlists on something like the 4th generation iPod shuffle via Finder?
How about smart playlists on iPhones?
I think it is managed by the new music app.
On a side note, you can keep using Mojave or whatever version you are using before Catalina.
 
Apple just hit it out of the park with these updates.

My one gripe... why don't they update the app separately for the OS? I'd really like to use the new Reminders app on an older Mac that won't support Catalina despite having an I5, 16Gb ram, and an SSD. It's a perfectly usable machine and I am sure it could run Reminders.

Hopefully there will be a hack to do it.
 
Because continuing to support mixed 32 and 64 bit apps in an OS which is natively 64 bit adds complexity throughout the OS which makes the whole thing slower, bloatier and use more memory and resources. Services, libraries, frameworks all have to support being usable by 32 and 64 bit apps. Apple started the 64 bit transition over 10 years ago, they've warned about compatibility for the last few years, now it's time to reap the benefits of being 64 bit .. before of course someone introduces a 128bit processor and we all do it all over again.

And then there is Microsoft that proves all of these statements wrong. But then again, Microsoft produces software for business needs, not lifestyle products.
 
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