How about "we have a huge lead in CUDA, especially with machine learning, but Apple won't buy our products, so let's drag our feet and kill their platform"?
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How about "we have a huge lead in CUDA, especially with machine learning, but Apple won't buy our products, so let's drag our feet and kill their platform"?
The more likely scenarios are incompetence, infighting, and lack of resources.
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The article does mention it has pretty colors that can be changed.
They make drivers for FreeBSD, Linux and Solaris, pretty sure that's not it.
Except that Nvidia isn't dragging their feet. They submitted Mojave drivers LONG ago. It's apple who's dragging their feet.
This is so depressing. I remember seeing the first thunderbolt 2 enclosures (back when egpus weren't officially supported), and they used to cost only a couple of hundred more than nowadays. I thought prices would go down once they become mass produced... I guess I was wrong. It's still a very long way to affordability.
Vega 64 (not sure if 64X is for sale yet), maybe Radeon VII soon unless they have already added support.
I think the best GPU for Windows is the RTX 2080 Ti. Its a little faster than the Radeon VII for a similar price and has ray tracing, which only a few games support right now but is pretty neat.
Yay, a external GPU box so we can experience massive bottlenecks.
For the price of this $400 box, and the cost of a high end graphics card, you could just build a gaming PC with better performance..
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Graphics card are pretty efficient and do not require that much power.
For the price of this $400 box, and the cost of a high end graphics card, you could just build a gaming PC with better performance..
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Graphics card are pretty efficient and do not require that much power.
With apples past history, it isn't surprising that he thinks that.
Not comparable. None of those platforms are exclusively AMD because they're not under single-vendor control. Oracle has a relationship with NVIDIA anyway.
Not true. There are many that require over a 500w power supply. Enclosures are not only powering the GPU itself but also the board inside and the ports and what's connected to them. These enclosures also provide power to charge laptops. The powersupply in them is not dedicated entirely to the GPU.
And the only time you get a bottleneck is if you use a laptop with it without an external monitor. Then you'd take about a 30% performance hit. If you use an external monitor the performance hit is minor, if any at all.
And no, you aren't going to build a gaming PC with better performance for $400. The CPU in my mini is easily $300+ by itself. Then you'd still have to buy ram, motherboard, case, PSU, SSD or HDD, optical if needed, and of course that high end graphics card, etc. And it's still not a Mac which is what everyone here wants to use.
I have built many computers over the years. I have several here now. I prefer to use my Mac. It's not just about gaming but also media creation. My girls can take their MacBook air's and just plug it in and use an ultra wide screen monitor and game on it too. Or work on video edits. Everyone in the house can make use of it. It's really rather convenient.
Your “massive bottleneck” is around 10% on average for well coded games/software.
Sure you could build a PC for $400 (+ graphics card), but if you already have a decent MacBook Pro/new Mac mini, it’s probably not going to be any faster for $400.
No rock here... you may or may not know, but there are eGPUs on the market that are sold complete with the GPU, and they’re not meant to be upgraded with a different card. The Blackmagic lineup is an example. It’s good for those who have an LG 27” 5K Thunderbolt 3 monitor, for instance, and want to accelerate DaVinci Resolve. In fact it’s not good it’s great. Which is awesome because there are no other options.
But yeah I found the article to be a strange read, since the author kept calling the enclosure an eGPU. (I actually didn’t notice its use in the title.) To me, that like calling a computer case a computer, even though there’s no CPU, or motherboard.
Maybe that’s a thing, that’s pretty much why I was asking. If people are actually calling the empty box an eGPU nowadays, I’m fine with that and I can easily adjust my thinking. So maybe one with a bundled GPU is an “eGPU with GPU”? ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
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I’m not sure what your use case is, but I don’t recommend gaming on a 5k display.
Add the Vega VII for an additional $699 and we're over $1100. So tell me again how overpriced Blackmagic stuff is that just works.
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Nvidia has no working relationship with Apple after burning all their bridges releasing one POS after another card that caused all sorts of issues. Apple writes the Device Driver for AMD's OEM cards they specifically tailored made to Apple's specs from AMD.
AMD has been building GPGPUs to Apple's designs for the past 5 years.
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Nvidia has no working relationship with Apple after burning all their bridges releasing one POS after another card that caused all sorts of issues. Apple writes the Device Driver for AMD's OEM cards they specifically tailored made to Apple's specs from AMD.
AMD has been building GPGPUs to Apple's designs for the past 5 years.
Um, no. The specs for a Vega 56 recommend a 650W power supply; with a Vega 64 it's 750W. Not sure if you realize these things have *thousands* of processors; power-wise it's not cheap to run them. Why do you think the electricity usage for cryptocurrency mining is so absurd?
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Nvidia released drivers for OSX all the way up to Mojave. I used all of them on my 2010 Mac Pro.
Blackmagic is horribly over priced. Because that $1199 gets you a radeon Vega 56 and not the Radeon VII you listed which would be $100 cheaper with this Razer enclosure and much faster. Though you could save an additional $100 and go with the Razer core X enclosure.
Nvidia has written and apple has signed drivers up to Mojave and supported them in egpu's. In Mojave apple just refused to sign anymore.
AMD has had their own issues as well. One example is the 6970m in the 2011 iMacs overheat and fail and apple even extended the warranty by 2 years to cover the known issues.
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OK, explain to me again why I would spend $400 for an enclosure plus another $200+ for a graphics card and only be able to play video games that have a Mac client versus spending $1000 on a Dell G7 and be able to play all video games?
Thankfully I went with the G7.
Thankfully I went with the G7.
Apple has gotten so artsy fartsy with computer designs that we have to add a giant black box in order to keep up with the rest of society. I guess this is what Apple meant when they were making a modular designed mac pro.
A decent spec PC ( which won’t break the bank these days ) will run rings around a console. Sure, it’s going to cost more than a console but a PC is far more flexible and longer life - you can switch components, GPU, CPU very easily as needed. Xbox, for example contains AMD GPUs, AMD cannot outperform NVIDIA ( outclassed unfortunately).
Saying ‘what games people consider popular’ is a bit lame TBH. It is a whole lot more definite, sales figures, and community activity etc.
Xbox and PS4 have to do a lot of trickery to achieve 4K gaming, where as PC can do this quite easily ( I.e 1080 - a GPU several years old ).
https://www.google.ca/amp/s/www.pcgamesn.com/nvidia-rtx-microsoft-dxr-beyond-next-gen-consoles?amp
Saying ‘what games people consider popular’ is a bit lame TBH. It is a whole lot more definite, sales figures, and community activity etc.
Xbox and PS4 have to do a lot of trickery to achieve 4K gaming, where as PC can do this quite easily ( I.e 1080 - a GPU several years old ).
https://www.google.ca/amp/s/www.pcgamesn.com/nvidia-rtx-microsoft-dxr-beyond-next-gen-consoles?amp
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