This isn’t a Mac Pro, it’s a third party eGPU enclosure.
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Hands-On With Razer's New Core X Chroma eGPU
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For those knocking this thing, please understand, this is a product designed for Razer PCs, yet the fact that it works with Apple machines at all is a good thing, and it makes all Macs and (underpowered) PCs way more powerful and flexible.
I can imagine setting up a rig with a Mac mini on one side and a small form-factor PC on the other while sharing a decent monitor and having the best of both worlds.
Been waiting for this since they first announced Thunderbolt!
I can imagine setting up a rig with a Mac mini on one side and a small form-factor PC on the other while sharing a decent monitor and having the best of both worlds.
Been waiting for this since they first announced Thunderbolt!
Because you want a Mac. Because MacOS is better. And it's not just about gaming. You may want to run multiple high Rez monitors. You want to do video editing. Professional photo work.
The majority of the games you play are on a Mac? Mine are. Of course I could also boot in to windows too and play everything else. All depends on a persons wants and needs.
As I mentioned before, we also have multiple laptops in the house and any one of them could plug in to this and make use of a high end card on a ultra wide monitor.
If it were just me and all I wanted was gaming then no, this probably wouldn't make sense. But it's not just me. And there's multiple needs for this.
I'm not referring to specs.
Games seem to come out for consoles first. If you want the cutting edge game, you need a console.
The most popular games don't run on macOS, so...
(And I am not saying that to be an arse - I finally just decided to buy a dedicated nVidia Windows Gaming PC and have it share the monitor I use as a secondary with my 2017 iMac 5K. That way I have "the best of both worlds" for my productivity and my gaming.)
At some point I also thinking of getting the best of both worlds by buying a full specced iMac, back in 2012. What a horrible plan that was. At first it could run AAA games properly, but prolonged game sessions make the iMac overheat quite a bit, and damaging GPU by the first year.
Well F that, Mac and gaming isn't going well together. You are correct, just buy a dedicated gaming box, and Mac for whatever works you need on MacOS.
It’s common for a game on all platforms to be released at the same time.
Edit: grammar!
You do know these eGPUs are made for Windows laptops, right? (OK, that was a rhetorical question...you didn't know, but decided to make an ill-informed comment anyway.) They happen to work with Macs too, but they're primarily made for PCs.
Still not true.
--Eric
I’m not trying to argue, but AMD’s 650W recommendation is for an entire computer. It is also somewhat overkill as they are giving room for over clocking (CPU or GPU), or having an inefficient power supply or anything like that. I don’t think the Vega 64 pulls over 350W stock and some can be undervolted to close to 200W.
It would be really pretty fantastic if with the Mac Pro and os 10.15 we get some Nvidia 20-series love. Thats a pipe dream. What i can see is Radeon Vii being the top end macOS gpu. Which is very disappointing. My iMac has a radeon 580 and ill be looking into an external gpu to drive my external 4k display at some point in the future, it’s just entirely dependent on what Apple or AMD decide to do over the next few years.
As a content creator - FCP / Protools / Adobe - this is reasonable value. Did a recent edit with 2 x Vega 56 on an iMac and it was crazy. I guess if it's your livelihood and your daily rates are up there this direction is a no brainer.
They call it an „empty graphics processing unit“.Is an eGPU enclosure without a GPU still an eGPU?
Obviously you have no idea what you are talking about - Windows PC's are way-way-way-way better than consoles and the fact, that they are upgradeable, makes them ALWAYS better than consoles
Do your research first, before making such statements please 
No ****, I guess the sarcasm went right over your head.
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Oh brother, you missed the point completely. It doesn't matter who they are made for, the point is macs are so far behind that we do have to attach a box (made for windows) to our boxes in order to get the graphics processing we need. Makes sense now doesn't it. Try to keep up mmmmmm kaaaaaay?
How are Mac's far behind in this sense? You can't have a desktop class GPU in a laptop – dedicated power hungry gaming laptops don't count – and good luck trying to upgrade any GPU that's in a laptop. An eGPU case such as this is the perfect device to gain graphics performance if you don't have nor want a desktop. The negative for some is lack of Nvidia support in Mac OS but that's not an issue at all for many. Now if you are saying that iMac's are far behind, you might have an argument, but an eGPU like this can really benefit the laptop user.
I actually do use my PC desktop with thunderbolt 3 PCIE to bind the GPU 2xDP signal into TB3 to UltraFine 5K.
It works great on 5K using 2080 Ti. In fact I don't need to turn on anti-aliasing for the games that I play. It's a huge bonus, since most games these days only supports TXAA or FXAA, which dramatically decrease the graphic quality and makes texture blurry.
It's 35% faster in 3D applications and consumes less power although it's using the older 12nm manufacturing process.
The RTX 2080 Ti is a much better GPU than the Radeon VII.
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2 years and I am still waiting for a solution that isn't the black magic...
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I use my 5K and accept the performance loss from going eGPU > Macbook > Display, but your set up sounds very interesting. Any more details of pics/specs?
Sure, it just has really really bad benchmark scores.Is an eGPU enclosure without a GPU still an eGPU?
This is the only plausible reason you gave.
Also it's not that relevant how many games are compatible with MacOS(there aren't many compatible triple A games anyway) when most of them run noticeably worse than on Window even if the Mac laptop or computer has similar hardware. So the simple fact is game optimization on MacOS is way worse than on Windows.
Also with Windows computers you can have it all, gaming and productivity.
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LoL you just contradicted yourself.
Anyway take a look here. https://www.techsiting.com/best-thin-and-light-gaming-laptops/
The Nvidia GeForce RTX 2070 8GB sounds pretty desktop class to me.
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Oh I got it, but a stupid post deserves a stupid response, don’t you think?
Sorry that went right over your head... whooossshhhh
Makes sense now doesn't it? Try to keep up mmmmmm kaaaaaay?
So your point is that Macs that need this eGPU are “so far behind” Windows PCs... which... also need this eGPU???
Are you sure you thought this through? Guess you’re the one who missed the point—of your pwn post... D’oh!!!
Bizarre post, hmmmm... yup avatar checks out.
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Hmm nothing about the noise.
Considering Razer products lately don't fully work without installing their software AND being always online in their cloud crap, I'd stay away anyway. Even if the eGPU part works without signing in, I'm sure someone at Razer is feverishly working to make it not work.
Considering Razer products lately don't fully work without installing their software AND being always online in their cloud crap, I'd stay away anyway. Even if the eGPU part works without signing in, I'm sure someone at Razer is feverishly working to make it not work.
Curious about your setup for this, 2 eGPUs each with Vega 56, both powering the internal display? Or something different? Thanks.
I will settle the Nvidia vs apple who's fault debate once and for all
they are both guilty in a way
no need to go back and explain everything all over again
after looking at all the evidence from both sides
we can agree or I came to the conclusion that both sides screwed up big time in a way or another
so there is no point saying this company is guilty and the other one is not
they are both guilty
sorry I made a long story short
but there is no point on telling the same story over and over again
this situation is totally unacceptable from both companies
they have no excuse or no justification, this is just plain wrong
they are both guilty in a way
no need to go back and explain everything all over again
after looking at all the evidence from both sides
we can agree or I came to the conclusion that both sides screwed up big time in a way or another
so there is no point saying this company is guilty and the other one is not
they are both guilty
sorry I made a long story short
but there is no point on telling the same story over and over again
this situation is totally unacceptable from both companies
they have no excuse or no justification, this is just plain wrong
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