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All this hate for current Apple TV remote is silly. It’s far more convenient to use it. It’s easier for text input, easier to scroll with variable speed, easier to seek a video file that’s playing, obviously has Siri, has a home/ tv app launch button, it is smaller and sleek, can turn on and off the tv and you can operate everything on it without looking at it. How often do people mute their tv? Just press and hold the volume down button or pause what’s playing. Ya’ll can’t be serious.
 
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All this hate for current Apple TV remote is silly. It’s far more convenient to use it. It’s easier for text input, easier to scroll with variable speed, easier to seek a video file that’s playing, obviously has Siri, has a home/ tv app launch button, it is smaller and sleek, can turn on and off the tv and you can operate everything on it without looking at it. How often do people mute their tv? Just press and hold the volume down button or pause what’s playing. Ya’ll can’t be serious.

You two are hilarious. The sarcasm is rich. Good job. Made my morning.
 
omg sign me up. i don't use siri and i can get used to no home button. the old silver apple remote was amazing. the newer ones with the touch/slide panel are hot garbage. the only redeeming quality on them is the recharging ability.
 
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Nothing wrong with the remote that comes with the Apple TV. Regardless, it’s just a remote, it’s not like you are playing games with it or needing to interact with it frequently.
 
i dont have apple tv up. have an older generation still new in box unopened.
anyway my bluetooth keyboard mouse combo has done well for years.
still use windows 10 on my entertainment rig
hope aapl tv remote get designed better and cheaper
 
"Unfortunately, given that this is developed by a Swiss company, it is unlikely to come to the United States or other countries."

WTF kind of illogical assertion is this?
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BTW the best remote for an Apple TV is an iPhone. Keyboard input, large swipe area, and you're not likely to lose it anytime soon.
 
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I really like the current Siri Remote. Only things I can think to improve it for me is a textured back rather than aluminum and the ability to ping the remote with sound, like iPhone or AirPods. They just need to put the mics from the HomePod on the new Apple TV.
 
No Siri button is a dealbreaker for me (not that I could even buy one in the US), but it doesn't even look like they are trying to sell this outside of Switzerland anyway...odd.
 
Of all the bad things about the Apple TV remote, the one I dislike the most is the absence of volume control.

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The Remote app that Apple supplies through the Store has the nice extra feature of automatically bringing up a keyboard when needed. But the app also lacks volume control.

Control your TV or receiver with your Siri Remote or Apple TV Remote: https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT205225, which contains a link to what to do if it doesn't work automatically. It also has a section discussing how to control the Apple TV ith a "home theater remote".

The problem with the Remote app not being able to control volume is that the iPhone doesn't have an IRDA port. The manual programming referred to in the link above programs the +/- buttons on the Siri remote to put out the correct IRDA commands for TV's that lack the ability for volume control via HDMI.
 
Wonder if the codes for this will turn up in the Harmony remote database...

I've been using my Harmony remote with Apple TV for years. I don't recall how much of the remote already knew about the proper codes vs my programming in specific key, but that's a beautiful thing about the Harmony, it can learn anything the system doesn't already know. It's the Borg of remotes.

Despite that all I still pick up the Siri remote 9/10 times and put down the Harmony to watch Apple TV.
 
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I use the iPhone app as I HATE the included remote. The back is too slippery and it's not at all intuitive. As for Siri? Please. With all the things she gets wrong, I don't even try anymore.

Personally, I'd just like an actual POWER button. This press and hold to 'sleep' gets old quick.
 
I hate the new Apple TV remotes. The first generation ones from half a dozen years ago were fine. These are cumbersome, fiddly devices that only lead to frustration. It takes me much more time to navigate. Some of us want nothing to do with Siri too. Apple used to design functional devices. They have moved in this direction ever since the Apple watch.
 
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Shut up and take my money you Swiss evil geniuses!!!

I abso-*****-lutely HATE the ATV remote, it is horrible, finicky piece of garbage. Would pay $40 a piece for these remotes and I have five ATVs in my house.
 
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I guess I'm one of the few who likes the remote, it works with the UI perfectly. I bought a Firestick 4k while they were on sale for like $20 and the UI isn't early as nice as the Apple TV's, big annoying banner ad right smack in the middle that you can't even pay to remove. ATV is just a nice row of icons you can scroll through quickly.

Though I will say it's a little sad that $20 device has better voice controls and performs faster than my $150 4th gen ATV. Definitely didn't age well hardware-wise, hope the 4k ATV is a little better.
 
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We need eBay to the rescue to import these. Someone in Switzerland is going to make some money (sell them for $39 plus whatever the cheapest shipping is).

I'd definitely take it over the existing Apple remote and would like Apple to replace the current version with it (or just go back to the prior version). I currently am still rocking the prior version silver model which is much more usable IMHO (along with my phone for alphanumeric entry). Can only imagine what Apple would sell this $20 remote for by itself though...$99 (ugh).
 
I keep my Apple Remote, unused, in a basket in the den, and use a universal remote for my Apple TV. Apparently there is so much demand for a replacement for the Apple Remote that the universal remote has a four-digit code to set it up for the Apple TV! You don't have to go through the laborious process of "training" it for the Apple TV app.

The Salt remote would be much better, and I want one. Unfortunately, flying to Switzerland to buy a $20 item seems a bit like overkill. Why can't Apple design a usable remote, or at least import this one?
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A couple dozen or even a couple hundred complainers isn’t really that much hate. It’s completely normal and to be expected here on MR forums :rolleyes:
I wasn't aware that anyone liked the Apple Remote. <sarcasm>Yes, the Apple Remote has a few wonderful features we can't do without. You can't tell by feel whether it's upside down or pointing the wrong direction. You can't find the touchpad by feel without using it, and sometimes just picking it up is a charming way to fast forward or fast reverse by accident and lose your place in the video. It's just one usability miracle after the other. The Apple Remote is also really great for people who watch TV with all the lights on, and don't mind missing a few moments of the show to look at the remote. The only feature it lacks is telepathy, so that it can pause the show while you search for it, pick it up, and orient it properly in your hand. Truly a marvel of design and engineering.</sarcasm>
 
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I find it near impossible to accurately navigate from one tile to the next in any direction with the swipe remote. It either doesn't move at all or moves 3+ tiles. IMNSHO there also needs to be a single button press to take you to the top level of the app you are in like Netflix, Hulu, etc. If a button does that now, I haven't found it.
 
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I wish we could get this in the US. Older parents have rough skin and it seems the ATV remote has a hard time with that on the touch pad area.

Can someone recommend a good third party option that's not a wall of buttons?
 
shipping from Switzerland is expensive - let me know if anyone finds a cheap shipper.

No Siri as it doesn't work with Swiss German - same reason they don't sell the HomePod here
 
Can someone recommend a good third party option that's not a wall of buttons?
Interestingly enough, one of the coolest features of the Apple TV is that you can set it up to work with *any* infrared remote you like. In the settings screen, under the Remote section, there's an option to learn a remote. You then teach it by pressing the various buttons that your particular remote has. So you could buy, for example, an Amazon Fire TV remote control, and teach it to work with that. That example only works if you aren't *also* trying to use an actual Fire TV in the same room, because your button presses would be interpreted by both your Apple TV and your Fire TV.
 
I do think the Apple remote is the biggest pice of Apple rubbish I own. Genearly like Apple but the remote is ****. Second only to the mouse.

Siri Remote or Magic Mouse: Which is worse?
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That is sort of the ultimate showdown of “form over function”...
Two truly horrendous designs given their intended usages.
 
The ATV4K remote is bad. Siri on it is great but the remote itself isn't. And the main big button jams from time to time, so the sensation of pressing down on it is gone.
 
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The ATV4K remote is bad. Siri on it is great but the remote itself isn't. And the main big button jams from time to time, so the sensation of pressing down on it is gone.

My main ATV4k Siri Remote trackpad is starting to wonk out and I can’t get the “edge press skip forward” thing to work reliably anymore.

I’m not sure what I’ll do if it keeps getting worse. For what I actually do with an ATV, I might just go get two Roku’s honestly.

I watch YTTV and a couple other sports Apps and use Plex & Spotify. The ATV’s are INSANE overkill for what I’m doing with them and I hate the Siri remote with the heat of a thousand suns...

(to answer the “why do I have them” - I’d thought gaming on them might be more of a thing and AirPlay has been occasionally used...)
 
Other telecommunications companies did not see any reason to look for an alternative remote. Does that also speak loudly?
Well, AFAIK at least in Switzerland the other companies don't really have a reason to: Salt is AFAIK the only Swiss provider which uses an Apple TV as TV-Box to deliver their TV offerings: the other providers give their users their proprietary box with accordingly proprietary remotes.
 
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